Dent in heatsink base

Merlin5 · 20 Sep 2009 at 13:20

I took the new 120 Ultra Extreme out of the box. It's obviously one that was previously returned to OC as the 'please remove' sticker was not present on the HS base. Then I noticed this tiny tiny dink over the 3rd heatpipe. I took these pics. Is there anything to be concerned about regarding performance, with this little edge chip?

setter · 20 Sep 2009 at 13:22

Shouldnt effect its operation at all as its right on the edge.

Merlin5 · 20 Sep 2009 at 13:29

setter said:
Shouldnt effect its operation at all as its right on the edge.

Good, thank you sir. Bit annoyed that whoever returned it removed the sticky back and created a dent, no doubt dropped it or something. I mean I'm returning the sunbeam CCF, completely intact with sticky backing, perfect condition. Ah well, as long as it doesn't affect anything, no harm done I guess.

Gaidin109 · 20 Sep 2009 at 13:30

I would still return it if you think it's been resold after a return.

Merlin5 · 20 Sep 2009 at 13:34

Gaidin109 said:
I would still return it if you think it's been resold after a return.

Well I presume they'll resell my CCF after they receive it? Are they allowed to resell returned goods that are supposedly not faulty? Plus they did let me off shipping and if it doesn't affect performance, I'll feel like a bit of a **** making a fuss, since OC have been so good to me.

rjk · 20 Sep 2009 at 13:37

we dont resell goods - if a heatsink was in this condition after a return it would likley come to me to use as a test heatsink

chances are its just a minor defect on thermalrights part

if you want to organise a return then let me know in customer services/rma section and i will get on it

i cant imagine it would affect performance at all though

DavyBoy · 20 Sep 2009 at 13:39

Merlin, that isn't going to affect the performance of the TRUE at all, both of my TRUES have got similar dents on the edges like this, and they are both perfectly fine.

Think about it mate, that part of the base isn't even going to come into contact with the processors IHS..

Take your chip and then place it against the base of the TRUE and see for yourself..

I wouldn't go sending something back over something like that!!!

Merlin5 · 20 Sep 2009 at 13:44

rjkoneill said:
we dont resell goods - if a heatsink was in this condition after a return it would likley come to me to use as a test heatsink

chances are its just a minor defect on thermalrights part

if you want to organise a return then let me know in customer services/rma section and i will get on it

i cant imagine it would affect performance at all though

Thanks mate, I'm fine with it since you both say it won't affect performance. I can't be bothered to do a second RMA.

I will say though, that not only was the base sticker missing, but the main bag of tools and brackets was half ripped open as well from across the centre of the bag. Nothing missing, nothing used. So either it was a return, or something went wrong at the factory.

Merlin5 · 20 Sep 2009 at 13:45

DavyBoy said:
Merlin, that isn't going to affect the performance of the TRUE at all, both of my TRUES have got similar dents on the edges like this, and they are both perfectly fine.

Think about it mate, that part of the base isn't even going to come into contact with the processors IHS..

Take your chip and then place it against the base of the TRUE and see for yourself..

I wouldn't go sending something back over something like that!!!

Hehe, no I know, of course. I only wanted to check in case anyone here said " no, send it back, it's defective!"

DavyBoy · 20 Sep 2009 at 13:49

Have you attempted to mount it yet?

Is it a Rev.C or is it just the normal one?

I ask because I have one fitted to my old AMD Dual Core rig, and the only way I can have it seated is with the fan facing my GFX card, I would much prefer to have it with the fan on the same side as my RAM blowing air out towards my rear exhaust fan, but with the mounting gear that comes with the TRUE I have, it just isn't possible to fit it like that.

However, with the Rev.C it comes with an updated mounting bracket that allows you to mount it whichever way you wish..

::edit::

You are going to be using it for the rig in your sig right?

Merlin5 · 20 Sep 2009 at 14:00

DavyBoy said:
Have you attempted to mount it yet?

Is it a Rev.C or is it just the normal one?

I ask because I have one fitted to my old AMD Dual Core rig, and the only way I can have it seated is with the fan facing my GFX card, I would much prefer to have it with the fan on the same side as my RAM blowing air out towards my rear exhaust fan, but with the mounting gear that comes with the TRUE I have, it just isn't possible to fit it like that.

However, with the Rev.C it comes with an updated mounting bracket that allows you to mount it whichever way you wish..

::edit::

You are going to be using it for the rig in your sig right?

AH!! I'm glad you said all that because I WAS wondering if I could have it mounted facing rear exhaust. Picture I saw of it on my mobo was facing GFX, but that was an ultra 120, not extreme, or certainly not rev C. Yes, mine is Rev C. Thank you so much for letting me know it can be done. Yes, main rig in sig. Oh that rhymes.

Merlin5 · 21 Sep 2009 at 00:19

Wow! 17c core temp idle!

Ok, now with side cover and side fan on, 19c stable idle. Amazing heatsink, just amazing. I'm so exited, this is exactly the kind of temp drop I was hoping for, it's about a 14c drop. Fan-****** tastic.

I found it harder than I thought it would be lining up the heatsink with the cpu and having the screw holes of the bracket line up with the holes on the motherboard! Consequently, I had to move the heatsink around a bit which worried me since I didn't want to do that in case it ruined the seal. Fortunately, it seems to have worked great. I first coated the heatsink and cpu, then wiped it off. MX-2 seemed quite sticky to work with as well. As soon as it touched the cpu before wiping it off, it was hard to spread around. This was just to fill the pores. Then I did a line on the cpu horizontally which would allow it to go against the direction of the grain on the heatsink when it's lowered onto the cpu. I screwed down the sprung loaded screws all the way and had to use the spanner for most of it as the heatsink blocks access to the screw heads. I clipped the fan as high onto the heatsink as possible, but the plastic fan surround is actually just sitting on the first ram stick. I think it's fine though. I'll post some pics. I also spent hours doing cable management, feeding cables through the back of the tray, something I wasn't aware of before. I'll post some pics in a bit.

Mal X · 21 Sep 2009 at 01:43

when i brought Thor's Hammer the whole base looked a bit like that

that's one of the reasons you have to lap it.....simply to get rid of the rough surface.

DavyBoy · 21 Sep 2009 at 02:04

Yeah, they do a really good job, those temps are fantastic mate..

Do you have your chip unlocked to an X4?

Merlin5 · 21 Sep 2009 at 02:13

DavyBoy said:
Yeah, they do a really good job, those temps are fantastic mate..

Do you have your chip unlocked to an X4?

Unfortunately not davyboy, I tried many many permutations, but it wouldn't have it. Good in a way though, because then I'd lose my ability to read the core temps, and little chance off overclocking. Because it seems my bios cpu temp is perhaps inaccurate, seeing as how it's always higher than my core. Currently, cpu is 34c while core is settled at 20c.

setter · 21 Sep 2009 at 02:44

Told you it would be fine, that wee nick was right on the edge mate, the cores of the cpu will never come near it (unless you make a real bad mounting job), now lap that cooler and see the temps drop

Audigex · 21 Sep 2009 at 02:53

I've got the same heatsink on a Phenom II 720BE - which is basically the 3-core version of your chip, and get 20 idle and 25 load; I thought my temperature monitor was faulty until I put my hand on the heatsink and found it cool to the touch, it really is a fantastic heatsink.

Although perhaps a little more than a dual or even tri-core needs (or any PhenomII for that), I'd always take more cooling over less :-)

setter · 21 Sep 2009 at 02:57

More is better, the TRUE is a very good cooler. ive used it with a q6600 at 3.8ghz and a q9550 at 3.8ghz, its gonna make its debut on an i7 tomorrow which will be interesting,

Merlin5 · 21 Sep 2009 at 04:52

25 LOAD? That is impressive! I'm pretty sure when I do an orthos/prime95 test, it'll go higher than 25. I reckon I'll get about 30 to 32 load. Which is still good.

Yep setter, you were right. Btw, this fan is quiet as my stock cooler fan when running at 1245rpm with smart fan on. When I disable smart fan and it revs up to about 1850rpm, it's still quiet, although there is a noticeable sound, not particularly loud, which could get annoying if I pay attention to it. But it's MUCH quieter than I was expecting.

Here's a before and after picture. Took me all day re-routing cables behind the mobo tray and then trying to find little gaps to feed cables through once the mobo was screwed back down again, but it was good fun and I'm so glad I've done it now, it's gotta improve airflow. The heatsink was a good excuse to do it

BEFORE (a few weeks ago):

mtb_kng said:
nice pc, bit of cable management wouldn't go amiss.

And after (need to change ribbon cables to round ones):

And some more pics for anyone interested. My sequence of events, after having done the cable management once mobo was removed. Messy line of TIM, eh? I smudged a bit I was trying to wipe off. You can also see how the fan surround is touching the ram and you can see how high the fan is, there's a gap between fan and top of HS.

Ast3r · 21 Sep 2009 at 10:01

Mate.where is the fan from the PSU?I have the same PSU only the 500 Watts one and its fan is facing the vid card and it really helps it coolI know that because putted my hand above the fan and its blowing cool air directly onto the card.And my HD4870 is staying idle at 55 degrees and if I block put something on top of the PSU fan the card gets to 58 degress.