Design to suit plot, or find plot to suit design.

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One of the many things I've thought about doing is building a house.
But how would you start.
Has anyone else been down the self build route on here.

Did you design the house you wanted and then find a plot to suit that design or did you Find the plot of land and then design the house to suit the plot.

Just wondering what the pitfalls or advantages of doing it either way might be.

First stumbling block. :D
 
I would have thought designing to suit the plot would be the only way. You need to take into account which direction the plot is facing (Ie, where to place windows for sunlight etc). It needs to be complimentary to the surrounding environment and other buildings (And planning permission will rely on this). If the plot is on an incline then this will drastically change the design of the building. There are plenty of other reasons why the plot should come first imo. Having said this, you could do some rough sketches and initial designs, then try and find a plot that would fit that design, then redraw and redesign your ideas to fit the final plot.
 
Yep most self build mortgages require 25% but not sure if that includes land or not.
Although as that other poster showed irfan be done on a small budget.
 
[TW]Fox;17402579 said:
Surely you need huge amounts of capital first, am I missing something here :confused:
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Family owns 500 acres of farm land.

£1500 quid of disposable income a month by middle of next year?


Next question!
 
Farm land with planning? Or classed as agricultural ?

It's insanely hard to get planning permission on farm land for anything other than agricultural buildings.
 
Already sold off some of our land to local residents for expansion to existing properties.
Yes I realise it could be insanely difficult for a new build.
Can be done though, as I'm living in one Dad built :D
 
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You can do an outline planning app which is cheaper than full and you don't need an actual design. It's just asking for "in principle" permission.
 
This is where the original question surfaced though, if the house designed for said plot falls on its arse at the approval stage, would it be feasible to take the design to a new plot. Admittedly at greater cost due to being outside family ownership.
 
Hence outline, if you get outline you get permission to build "something" on that plot.

Moving designs from one plot to anouther is possible but you need to bare in mind that a design takes many things into account, context, orientation, aspects, plot size, levels etc etc.

My advice would be create a brief, a brief can be interpreted to create a design for you and the plot.
 
Thought you needed a bit more detail even in "outline"

If you are the person making the application, your initial enquiries will be concerned with five rudimentary elements, from which you will be required to seek approval based on one or more of the following:

1. Siting

2. Access

3. Design

4. External appearance

5. Landscaping
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Open to interpretation I guess
 
It's not a developed design so you save money on front end, it's more a massing excersise, materials ofc can be disclosed and access obv needs to be considered from the word go. But your not required to submit fully resolved designs, your asking for permission to build something not "i want to build this!"
 
Scubascorpion said:
Family owns 500 acres of farm land.

£1500 quid of disposable income a month by middle of next year?


Next question!
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£1500 of disposable income a month isn't capital. It would take you two years just to save up £36k assuming you didnt spend a penny on anything else.

And good luck with that change of use application.
 
surely with £1500 disposable income per month you should find a plot to suit your design, or am i missing the point of building it yourself?

edit: stop with the bluntness scuba as you're asking for help and it's driving me crazy!!!!
 
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Scubascorpion said:
and?
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You don't just rush out and build a house with no capital and only a reasonable monthly income otherwise everyone would be doing it. You need substantial capital first, then you can think about building a house with it.

This is why a house costs more to buy than land + materials to build a house - because you can aquire the latter with a small deposit and decent monthly income, whereas the same cannot be said for the former.

Anyway, less than a year since you almost went bankrupt, maybe take things slow, or you'll end up there again. Wasn't it over-ambitious projects that caused it last time?
 
TW is often misunderstood. he's offering honest advice to help you scuba, nothing more. if you two have a past i think it's fair to say fox is "over" it as he's trying to help you with a realistic answer.
 
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