Detailing / Paint touch up question

( |-| |2 ][ $ · 27 Jun 2008 at 10:43

I'm expecting a package from the group Dr Colorchip buy but i've also bought quik clay and some collinite by question is in what order do I do the dr colourchip.

I quessing this is after the quik clay and before the wax? Does that mean I have to wait for the colorchip to arrive before I clay and wax my car.... pah!

paradigm · 27 Jun 2008 at 10:46

I'd clay the current paintwork, then degrease the bodywork. Apply the Dr Colorchip and allow it to cure. Then I'd polish, seal, and wax the car.

Infact, that's what I'll be doing when my Dr Colorchip package arrives.

( |-| |2 ][ $ · 27 Jun 2008 at 11:07

By degrease do to just mean wash it again? Or is there something I'm missing out on?
I think i'm going to miss out the seal and just go for polish then wax this time.

SoliD · 27 Jun 2008 at 11:28

( |-| |2 ][ $;11976077 said:
By degrease do to just mean wash it again? Or is there something I'm missing out on?
I think i'm going to miss out the seal and just go for polish then wax this time.

Degrease, just getting all the impurities out of the paintwork, good one for this is fairy liquid which would take all your previous layers off as well as degrease

Begbie · 27 Jun 2008 at 11:53

SoliD said:
Degrease, just getting all the impurities out of the paintwork, good one for this is fairy liquid which would take all your previous layers off as well as degrease

If your going to degrease use a degreaser. Fairy liquid is extremely bad for your paint work. IF you must use fairly liquid, make sure you wash your car after to get rid of any salt.

paradigm · 27 Jun 2008 at 11:53

Begbie said:
If your going to degrease use a degreaser. Fairy liquid is extremely bad for your paint work. IF you must use fairly liquid, make sure you wash your car after to get rid of any salt.

Correct. A proper degreaser is 100x better than fairy liquid!

Clarkey · 27 Jun 2008 at 11:55

Begbie said:
Fairy liquid is extremely bad for your paint work.

Rubbish. I know people who have washed their cars only with fairy liquid for donkeys years and you know what, the paint is fine.

paradigm · 27 Jun 2008 at 11:58

Clarkey said:
Rubbish. I know people who have washed their cars only with fairy liquid for donkeys years and you know what, the paint is fine.

I bet it really isn't.

The salts, detergents, and oil/wax stripping properties of dishwashing liquids are not good for paint condition and longevity at all.

The cars that have been treated in that way may still have paint, but I'll wager that the paint isn't in good condition at all.

ethos · 27 Jun 2008 at 11:58

Clarkey said:
Rubbish. I know people who have washed their cars only with fairy liquid for donkeys years and you know what, the paint is fine.

It removes all protection / polish from the paintwork, I wouldn't say it's the best idea on anything remotely nice....

Begbie · 27 Jun 2008 at 12:00

Clarkey said:
Rubbish. I know people who have washed their cars only with fairy liquid for donkeys years and you know what, the paint is fine.

Then they/you obviously know nothing about paintwork or have no attention to detail. The paintwork will look crap compared to one that is washed correctly.

[TW]Fox · 27 Jun 2008 at 12:10

It's going to be rubbish if this Dr Colorchip stuff sucks.

paradigm · 27 Jun 2008 at 12:24

[TW]Fox;11976620 said:
It's going to be rubbish if this Dr Colorchip stuff sucks.

I think its more "It's going to be rubbish if we suck at applying this Dr Colorchip stuff".

Toker · 27 Jun 2008 at 12:25

although fairy is bad for paint, a lot of pros will use a squirt of fairy in a strong concentration of their normal shampoo to remove wax etc, its such a small quantity and it's only happening like once so it's doing no harm

frequent use however is going to cause damage

[TW]Fox · 27 Jun 2008 at 12:28

paradigm said:
I think its more "It's going to be rubbish if we suck at applying this Dr Colorchip stuff".

Or 'It's going to be rubbish of this home-DIY product requires a qualification in car bodywork repairs to get results from'

Clarkey · 27 Jun 2008 at 12:32

I never said it was a good thing to use fairy, just pointing out that it is not [doom]EXTREMELY BAD[/doom]. The paint might lose some shine over a long period but nothing that can't be fixed with a good polish.

Begbie · 27 Jun 2008 at 12:35

Clarkey said:
I never said it was a good thing to use fairy, just pointing out that it is not [doom]EXTREMELY BAD[/doom]. The paint might lose some shine over a long period but nothing that can't be fixed with a good polish.

It will lose more than shine, which more than lickly can be rectified by polish. But better not to do it in the first place.

SoliD · 27 Jun 2008 at 12:36

Begbie said:
It will lose more than shine, which more than lickly can be rectified by polish. But better not to do it in the first place.

But as a one off thing it wont be doing any harm, as long as you are diluting it!

eidolon · 27 Jun 2008 at 12:39

Clarkey said:
I never said it was a good thing to use fairy, just pointing out that it is not [doom]EXTREMELY BAD[/doom]. The paint might lose some shine over a long period but nothing that can't be fixed with a good polish.

I washed the old Clio 16V with fairy and my god did it dull the paintwork. Looked as flat as something Penski would post! Needed a damn good polish and wax afterwards.

Fairy is probably fine if the aim to to strip the protection down to zero, but it *definitely* needs reapplying afterwards.

Toker · 27 Jun 2008 at 13:40

another side affect of fairy liquid is rubber seals get damaged by it and it's really salty so can induce rust