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But lightbox implementations aren't strictly AJAX; Ajax maybe, but not AJAX ;).

AJAX is javascript's XHTML - everybody uses it, few genuinely understand it and nobody actually implements the X.

Besides, JSON > * for asynchronous action.
 
Augmented said:
But lightbox implementations aren't strictly AJAX; Ajax maybe, but not AJAX ;).

AJAX is javascript's XHTML - everybody uses it, few genuinely understand it and nobody actually implements the X.

Besides, JSON > * for asynchronous action.
If you want to play the semantics game, we all can :p

Asynchronous Javascript And Xml. You don't need both to perform "AJAX" you only need Asynchronous Javascript XmlHttpRequest (or IE flavor) and you have AJAX functionality. Regardless if you are pulling XML/XHTML or plain data, or whatever else.
 
Dj_Jestar said:
You don't need both to perform "AJAX"
Sure, it is indeed an 'And' rather than a 'With'. AJWX wouldn't quite have the same ring to it somehow :D.

I was focused on the mix-up of scripts that are just a bit of DOM manipulation and effects, with scripts that are actually "ajaxy".

I'm probably being picky, but lightbox style scripts are the former; DOM hacking, opacity/scale transitions, rather than actual ajax data transfer. All they're doing is grabbing the href attribute of the clicked link and inserting it as an <img> in the overlay. They're certainly a great example of modern javascript techniques - unobtrusive, lightweight, <insert buzzword here> etc. - but they don't feature anything I would associate with ajax.

I'd say that last.fm, for example, is a better example of what I think of ajax as - where data is actually being sent to the server, processed and data returned in response - such as with playlist editing, shoutbox submission, tagging etc.

(apologies for thread derailment!)
 
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