Diddums' new bike decision thread

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Rather than spam up every other thread on here I thought I'd create my own to jot down some ideas, suggestions and candidates for my choice of bike which if all goes well, will be mine for next summer. Any input is, as always, greatly appreciated :)

A few things I need to take in to consideration:

I haven't ridden in anger in well over 10 years and even then the biggest bike I rode was an XT600 so I'm going in to this with the mindset of being a complete noob.

I don't want anything big or mental, the main point of the bike will be commuting and weekend fun, but still fairly frugal and not too uncomfortable. Low insurance group helps too.

My wife is still very slowly warming to the idea of me riding (keep in mind that this is someone who has a very nasty experience of how badly cars can go wrong, so I'm not forcing anything) which again is another reason I don't want to suddenly come home with a litre bike.

With that all in mind, I also need to think with my head and not with my heart so things like Aprilia are for the mean time, out of the question. If it breaks, I need to be able to fix it pronto as I'll be using it to get to work. It'll be parked outside at home, off the street, and exposed to the elements and sadly where I live, there are many, many loose fingers. At work it'll be in a private underground car park so that's not something I need to concern myself with.

So far I've come up with a few ideas, top of my list right now is a Duke 390 (2017 model). This however seems to suffer a fair bit from Aprilia Syndrome, as in parts aren't always available, but I'd probably get a brand new one with warranty anyway to combat that a bit. It's also a great bike for hooning and I'm sure the local teefs around me will know about it, so it'll be fully comp and have loads of anti-theft systems put in place. Great bike, glowing reviews all round, bursting with new technology and a blast to ride even at sub-licence-losing-speeds. @Kreeeee is also considering one, so I'm posting this vid here as this is probably the best review I've seen of them so far. Great camera work and editing too, just skip past the music in the beginning:



Another idea is to go with old faithful and get something like an SV650 for the very many obvious reasons everyone knows about already: cheap, indestructible, fun, parts are everywhere and mechanics with no knowledge of them simply don't exist. Thing is, I've never been the biggest fan of the SV. No idea why, I think I could think of it (rightly or wrongly) as being bland. I'll have to take one for a ride and shake those preconceived notions.

Then there are the 400cc 4s. I've always loved these because you can wring their necks over and over and still have a blast at under a ton whilst the little inline 4 screams past 10k RPM. Fairly reliable too, although they're getting a bit long in the tooth so will probably have to fork out a bit more for a good one.

And last but not least, something like a VFR 800. Jack of all trades, does everything you could want it to and won't break ever. Can still be had for a pittance and that V4 sounds the dog's danglies with a decent pipe on it. Only problem is I'm now getting to the larger end of the scale and truth be told, I don't want to get such a powerful bike until I've gained trust in my abilities to contain myself should I get a little excited or affected by the red mist (big thing for me).

I'll keep posting my thoughts in here, obviously this is a boring thread to most who have ridden but I'm now feeling like I'm getting a bit of my old self back, it's a very liberating and exciting time for me and although it's still baby steps at the moment, I'm making progress and even getting my wife on board and that's all that matters to me right now.

Cheers!
 
SV650 will be a good option to have mate.. I had one for 4 years and had many fun times on it... Great comfort for commuting/long rides, Weekend blasts are also great fun on a bike like this..

What sort of budget you got in mind?
 
The bike will be used primarily for commuting with a bit of weekend fun (think Cheddar Gorge and that sort of thing, days / weekends out). Budget isn't an issue, I'm in no rush so if I have to save a couple of months more then I'll do that. I've seen bikes from sub £1k to about £4.4k for a new Duke.

That RD350 popped up on my Facebook yesterday too, if I had a garage and could protect it properly from wandering hands I'd be all over it but sadly here in London it won't last a month.

Still leaning towards a Duke 390, although the simplicity and ease of use of the SV simply can't be discounted. An MT07 or Triple would also be nice but again I need to test my temper and responsibility first and my wife would go nuts if I came home on one.
 
Before you do anything you might want to run a few insurance quotes for various bikes given that you live in London & haven't ridden in 10 years.
 
Bias opinion but SV650 > MT-07.

And the Honda Hornet is better than both :p

MT07 build quality is awful from what I've seen. SV is probably better quality (although doesn't look as nice).

Street Triple is a good place to start although might be more power than you're after?
 
Definitely more powerful. I want to step up slowly, so every time I upgrade I get that awesome feeling of a more powerful bike. I could hop straight on to an S1000 RR and that'd be the end of it :p
 
Street triple insurance in London would be eye watering, they're one of the most stolen bikes. Scrotes love to follow people home for them.
 
I've had both, MT and street triple r, both bikes are good but the triple is in another league considering there was only an £800 difference between the two I had.

Triple is a fantastic first bike, it does everything you need it to and better, power where you need it, good brakes, good handling, great build quality, cheap to insure (for me).

I'd have one over an MT-07 having ridden both.

Take my word for it, you will get bored of a 390cc quickly, maybe not as quick as I get bored of bikes but it won't be long before you want more.

Start on a 600/675/689cc.
 
I've had both, MT and street triple r, both bikes are good but the triple is in another league considering there was only an £800 difference between the two I had.

Triple is a fantastic first bike, it does everything you need it to and better, power where you need it, good brakes, good handling, great build quality, cheap to insure (for me).

I'd have one over an MT-07 having ridden both.

Take my word for it, you will get bored of a 390cc quickly, maybe not as quick as I get bored of bikes but it won't be long before you want more.

Start on a 600/675/689cc.

That's no surprise as they're very different bikes aimed at very different people. The MT-09 is Yamaha's competitor to the Street Triple.
 
SV plus GSXR front end.
You would need a GSXR Front end, ZX6R shock at the back than give it to someone who knows how to set it up. But its a lot of money complete front end alone is like 300-400, shock is around 60-80 quid+any mods to fit it. = Hassle...

Get an Street Triple 675 R and tell your wife it only has 3 cylinders, not 4 like sportsbike. :p:D
 
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