Dilema!

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So here i am with *some* money! ;) CC needs some exercise so i am currently on:

3.2ghz P4 @ 4.13ghz (socket 478) on watercooling
6800GT AGP
2GB value ram

i have about £300 to upgrade GPU + CPU + MOBO to something better however here are the factors:
> my watercooling wont support conroe (its worth £200 so i dont know whether i could sell this for conroe or keep for 939 build)
> I need PCI -E this time!
> want something thats gonna be up to date for a while (quake wars, spore and good old CSS)
> Something i can upgrade in the future? (better cpu etc)
> if possible, a cpu my watercooling can support (939, 775 - not sure on conroe!)

cheers guys!!

or do i save and wait till september (conroe price drops?)
 
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its a Koolance Exos 2 system if that helps?

very pricey to change blocks for GPU , HDDs etc so not sure if it will either :
> be economically suitable to buy new block
> if they even release one

i do know it supports 775, 478, 939.... is conroe the same size as 775? cause the kit comes with all the socket attachments so maybe it could fit a conroe?

Have a peek at this old blog from ages ago if the pictures help?
CLICK ME
 
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They are more than likely to release one, it is a fairly big brand who pride on top end integrated WC kits.

Just got to wait really, early adopters always get hit with high prices, poor performance boosts and instability. :p

Been there, done that a few times, got the pile of dated hardware. :D
 
Well I am controversial, known stability over a better benchmark.

Wait for conroe to be out for a month or so before you think of upgrading, then you get lots of people with rigs to copy for compatability and tons of reviews and performance data on the retail chips. (Rather than engineering samples that clock stupidly)

Just the way I look at it, but I do not like to throw my money around everywhere as I like to get it right first time, you also do not get hit with the early adopter premium, drivers more mature...

The time when Conroe gets faster in the real world through drivers on GPU's being optimised etc, should be the time you get the platform. (Around 1month maybe 2 after release, gets you a much better deal to my eyes.)

That is personally what I am doing, let other people have the issues with it!
 
ok mate, might just hold on to my cash, how much would a build with conroe be? with lets say an X1800xt, 2GB ddr2, mobo + chip (E6600)? by lets say september, thing is by then wont directx9 card become slightly overlooked due to direct x 10?
 
But then you get the DX10 card.

Its a dilema, I would wait until August personally, or september.

You can get into the trap of waiting for the next big thing, what you do is pick a month when no big release are coming in the one after, and buy then and you get a good value rig.

There are always £600, £1000, £1400 gaming rigs, just the components change with time.

Never a good time to buy, but the release month of a new system such as conroe is always a expensive and risky time to buy.

Just what I would do, get it a month after.

You can always wait, and you do have to buy sometime!
 
You could have MM access, if you have money now it may be worth keeping an eye out in MM as loads of old kit will be sold off. (x2 4400 is old. :eek: )

Conroe will cause upgrades, so all the current top end kit will go for cheap on the MM.

Never guess what I am planning! :p
 
i got MM access! i was hoping to pick up some 939 for less hassle, to be honest, the CPUs going on 939 builds should be fine for mefor another year? would you say i would notice difference between my current socket 478 3.2 prescott and lets say , an AMD san diego 4000+ ? or even an X23800+ , 4400+?

cause i think conroe is going to be a little bit too expensive
 
You WILL notice a huge difference going to a X2 4400. (I made the leap, although a 3700 inbetween.)

As for the 4000+, just don't bother, it will feel slightly slower in windows than your P4 due to lack of HT.

The x2 4400 S939 would be a great buy, should be cheap around conroe release when they come up, so worth keeping an eye out. :)
 
That is exactly the gear I think will show up in MM for cheap. :p

Good luck hunting it down, I may be racing you to the ram though!
 
I should hope a DC 4400 would be 'adequate'!

It will run on a Athlon XP, it should fly on a dual core x2. :)

The 4400's easily clock to 4800 speeds, mine does 2.93ghz on one core, but the other crashes and burns.

(I blame it on my silent cooling!)

If the 4400 does not make the final version of vista fly I will be amazed, copes well enough with the Beta's anyway.
 
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