Dinosaur bones Carbon-14 dated to less than 40,000 years

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Whilst i'm skeptical about some of the scientific dating methods i found this interesting and somewhat slightly pertubed.

[FONT=&quot]Accelerator Mass Spectrometry (AMS)[/FONT] this technology (AMS) involves actually counting the carbon 14 atoms as they are separated from the sample.

[FONT=&quot]Researchers have found a reason for the puzzling survival of soft tissue and collagen in dinosaur bones – the bones are younger than anyone ever guessed. Carbon-14 (C-14) dating of multiple samples of bone from 8 dinosaurs from Texas, Alaska, Colorado, and Montana revealed that they are only 22,000 to 39,000 years old. Since dinosaurs are thought to be over 65 million years old, the news is stunning. And more than some can tolerate. After the AOGS-AGU conference in Singapore, the abstract was removed from the conference website by two chairmen because they could not accept the findings. Unwilling to challenge the data openly, they erased the report from public view without a word to the authors or even to the AOGS officers, until after an investigation. It won't be restored.

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[FONT=&quot]The theoretical limit for C-14 dating is 100,000 years before present using AMS. For practical purposes, it is 50,000 to 60,000 years. Dinosaur bones with Carbon-14 dates in the range of 22,000 to 39,000 years before present, combined with the discovery of soft tissue in dinosaur bones, indicate that something is wrong with the conventional wisdom about dinosaurs.



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Carbon-14 dating dinosaur bones

Problems with old carbon contamination:

The following few examples show that often carbon dating can indicate items are hundreds of years older thaney actually are. This is due to the fact that animals and man often eat items with old calcium in them. For example do you take coral calcium as a supplement? Well guess what it often comes from old long dead coral which is packaged and sold to people who supplement their diet. The conclusion should be that true carbon dates for items can often be younger than the date given!

The shells of living mollusks have been dated using the carbon 14 method, only to find that the method gave it a date as having been dead for 23,000 years! (Science vol. 141 1963 pg. 634-637)

Shells from living snails were dated using the Carbon 14 method. The results stated that the snails had died 27,000 years ago. (Science vol. 224 1984 pg. 58-61)

A lake Bonney seal known to have died only a few weeks before was carbon dated. The results stated that the seal had died between 515 and 715 years ago. (Antarctic Journal, Washington)

What about a freshly killed seal? Well, they dated one of those too, the results stated that the seal had died 1,300 years ago. (Antarctic Journal vol. 6 Sept-Oct 1971 pg. 211)

Dating of Dinasaur bones: Radiocarbon dating of bone

Carbon-14 dating dinosaur bones


tick tock went the molecular clock for mtDNA eve, should one assume a date?, pass on the paternal mtDNA perhaps.
 
So basically they say one thing but the evidence points towards it being a load of ****.

You owe me minutes of my life & I want them back now !!! :mad:
 
The conference room doesn't appear to be too full, looks like all the academics were on a coffee break for that presentation :p
 
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How old do Creationists say the world is again?

Ranges from around 6,300 to 8,000 years

Interesting post OP. Reliability of carbon dating has been in question for years. Interesting references to the 1801 Hawaii volcanic lava test, amongst others. Linky

Ultimately people are going to believe what they want to, whatever you believe in just make sure you have as balanced an understanding of both sides as possible, if for nothing else then to understand where someone with opposed views is coming from.
 
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Soft tissue in dinosaur bones?

Since when did we have dinosaur bones? What we have is fossils and a lot of layered geology that suggests their age.

Radiocarbon dating is a completely useless method for determining the age whatever it is they're calling a 'dinosaur bone' because it's limited to about 60,000 years; you're never going to get hundreds of thousands or even millions of years out of this method (their theorised age) so I fail to see how this result is valid.
 
And this is why spirituality is always constant and reliable. Knowledge which has been passed down the generations for thousands of years while science is forever catching up with itself.
 
So basically they say one thing but the evidence points towards it being a load of ****.

You owe me minutes of my life & I want them back now !!! :mad:
That also appears to be the case with the funamental constants according to Rupert Sheldrake as well. A lot of good work in Science is being covered up by biggots refusing to accept or even remotely consider evidence to the contrary. Is it now the case that the dinosaur delusion can be added to his The Science Delusion I wonder?
 
So this means that either carbon dating is a load of crap?
The technique used for it is completely unreliable?
Or Dinosaurs lasted a heck of a lot longer than previously thought.


All three results are fascinating.
 
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