Directx 12 to not support Windows 7.

pete910 · 15 Nov 2014 at 12:40

Why does everyone keep forgetting about win2k . I preferred that to xp personally

benjii · 15 Nov 2014 at 12:49

LambChop said:
Win 98 - Good
Win ME - Nasty
Win XP - Good
Win Vista - Nasty
Win 7 - Good
Win 8/8.1 - Nasty
Win 10 - ??

You missed Win 2000 and that was quite good. Although it breaks your pattern.

ChrisD. · 15 Nov 2014 at 12:53

2000 was more of a Server OS than client OS although I admit it could do both.

Wizzfizz · 15 Nov 2014 at 12:54

2000 was great, used it for a good two years before going to XP

benjii · 15 Nov 2014 at 13:08

S2KIP said:
2000 was more of a Server OS than client OS although I admit it could do both.

IIRC, NT was the server OS and 2000 was the client version.

ChrisD. · 15 Nov 2014 at 13:15

I always remember 2000 as a Server OS.

benjii · 15 Nov 2014 at 13:24

S2KIP said:
I always remember 2000 as a Server OS.

You're right. 2000 was the successor to NT, but was both a client and server os. Still, it was good!

PapaLazaru · 15 Nov 2014 at 13:41

I just don't get how people can moan so much about this (if true).

Win7 is five years old now. You moan you might have to upgrade your OS, but are happy to shell out hundreds if not thousands of pounds in five years on GPU's?

It cost me something like £30 to upgrade from 7 to 8 and it is entirely possible to make it look like Win7 if you do so wish. It is faster in every respect.

JediFragger · 15 Nov 2014 at 13:43

Win 8.1 with Classic Shell is fantastic, and I was a die-hard Win 7 fan!!! Not seen the Start Screen or any Metro apps yet too thank God (2 month install)

benjii · 15 Nov 2014 at 13:43

PapaLazaru said:
I just don't get how people can moan so much about this (if true).

Win7 is five years old now. You moan you might have to upgrade your OS, but are happy to shell out hundreds if not thousands of pounds in five years on GPU's?

It cost me something like £30 to upgrade from 7 to 8 and it is entirely possible to make it look like Win7 if you do so wish. It is faster in every respect.

I'm still running Windows 7, but I'm not a Windows 8 bandwaggon basher. I just like to wait a year or two with new OS's, so they can get some service packs under their belts and to gauge any long term incompatability issues.

TAC4U · 15 Nov 2014 at 14:11

Windows 10 will likely be a cheap / free upgrade, meaning this isn't an issue like it was with Vista. I'm using the Technical Preview now and it's shaping up to be a decent OS and it doesn't even have the main features yet.

Windows 8.1 was fine. The improvements on the desktop (Task Manager, Explorer, file transfer, multi-monitor features, etc) more than made up for the abomination that was Metro. As much as I dislike Metro it was barely a factor in everyday usage.

bru · 15 Nov 2014 at 15:27

smogsy said:
this has been debunked, Microsoft now saying richard huddy has no evidence
& was misinformed.

(heard it from Linus-tech-tips when he was reading a email.

Quoted because it was seemingly ignored by everyone.

Do you have any links to Microsoft saying it is wrong ?

mmj_uk · 15 Nov 2014 at 15:34

Does Richard Huddy ever actually tell the truth? NVidia engineers have called his G-Sync and GameWorks claims a load of bobbins and now Microsoft putting him in his place, is he just employed to sling mud about rival products?

humbug · 15 Nov 2014 at 15:38

Windows 7 Support will be halted by the mid/end of next year, like Windows XP it will get no more upgrades.

If DX12 is in Windows 7 i will eat my Graphics Card, it doesn't take a lot to predict what Huddy did given that MS are effectively making it EOL.

smogsy · 15 Nov 2014 at 15:38

bru said:
Quoted because it was seemingly ignored by everyone.

Do you have any links to Microsoft saying it is wrong ?

not from MS but from AMD saying he missspoke
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/amd-misspoke-saying-directx-12-won-t-work-with-win/1100-6423617/

layte · 15 Nov 2014 at 15:47

humbug said:
Windows 7 Support will be halted by the mid/end of next year, like Windows XP it will get no more upgrades.

If DX12 is in Windows 7 i will eat my Graphics Card, it doesn't take a lot to predict what Huddy did given that MS are effectively making it EOL.

Not exactly correct. Windows 7 will no longer get main line (feature pack) support after January 2015, but it will continue to get security patches and extended support until 2020.

humbug · 15 Nov 2014 at 15:52

layte said:
Not exactly correct. Windows 7 will no longer get main line (feature pack) support after January 2015, but it will continue to get security patches and extended support until 2020.

I said it will get no more upgrades, whats the diffrence between that and "feature packs" ?????

elmuzzy66. · 15 Nov 2014 at 16:01

humbug said:
I said it will get no more upgrades, whats the diffrence between that and "feature packs" ?????

The difference is the meaning of the words. You and amd fans use it to mean that win 7 will be unsupported by ms. Which in turn means win 7 users need mantle to keep up with dx12 and win10 users. All to paint a picture that in the pc world only amd has the end user at heart

bru · 15 Nov 2014 at 16:04

elmuzzy66. said:
The difference is the meaning of the words. You and amd fans use it to mean that win 7 will be unsupported by ms. Which in turn means win 7 users need mantle to keep up with dx12 and win10 users. All to paint a picture that in the pc world only amd has the end user at heart

Woah...... bit of a stretch there, we all know humbug is AMD through and through, but I don't think he would put that together........mr wall of text on the other hand

JediFragger · 15 Nov 2014 at 16:13

bru said:
Woah...... bit of a stretch there, we all know humbug is AMD through and through, but I don't think he would put that together........mr wall of text on the other hand

Mr W.O.T. to you