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Disappointment with Ryzen and Bios

:D no worries. I id try the HDMI on the board any way to to "check" all aptions but i cant get around this power cycling. It runs for 20 seconds then i hear a "click" from the PSU and it rebooting again. There is a slim chance its a dead PSU but unlikely i would imagine. having had a look around online its really looking like the RAM not being supported by the bios. shame you cant post to bios without ram. The ram will be here between 8-10pm (got to love amazon prime now) as will a ryzen 7. will give the ram a go first and if it works update the bios and see what goes on. DOnt want to take the 1700 out the pack as i know im going to be temped to keep it and i really did not want to spend that much on a HTPC rig for the living room.

also just noticed the Ryzen 7 1700 is only 65w and the 1600X is 95w how does adding the X add so many more watts?
 
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Randall8686 said:
also just noticed the Ryzen 7 1700 is only 65w and the 1600X is 95w how does adding the X add so many more watts?
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It stands for thermal design power. It's loosely useful for specing cooling requirements. The higher measure reflects the X variants higher XFR boost ability. Boosting the clockspeed with higher voltage draws more power so produces more heat.
 
eddyr said:
It stands for thermal design power. It's loosely useful for specing cooling requirements. The higher measure reflects the X variants higher XFR boost ability. Boosting the clockspeed with higher voltage draws more power so produces more heat.
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I understand TDP but they advertise it as Watts so i was assuming that it actually draws 95 watts and 65 watts respectively. Just thought that ever the XRF feature of the 6 core would not use that much more over a "stock non XFR" 8 core. Not arguing the fact just quite surprised that a 8 core 16 thread is that much lower thats all. looking forward to just getting it going now see what this Ryzen fuss is all about. It will be used for some Sony Vegas work (sorry just Vegas now) so it should really shine here. i guess as more and more games are written for multi core CPU's this will help do.
Im surprised that they are not more games supporting multi threaded CPU's given the PS4 have 4 cores and the new Xbox one X has 8 cores now. I guess the launch of that console might really help multi core support in games.
 
Randall8686 said:
OK 1700 fitted and Ram and still have exactly the same problem..... I give up. Think im just going to send it all back.
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Is that with a new CPU and new RAM??

Edit!!

Yeah,send it back - probably take a video of the motherboard not working with two different Ryzen CPUs and two different RAM sets.

Second Edit!!

My main system is mini-ITX too,so deffo going to tell people to avoid that motherboard if it is so finicky with RAM.
 
It's not the RAM if you're using 8pack stuff, it's sammy B-die and it should have no issue on any AM4 board. Sounds to me like the mobo is just dead. As both the CPU and the memory should be fine out the box.
 
Well both sets of ram it just keeps looping its boot and both CPU's it keeps looping its boot. tried all combinations with no joy and i just cleared the CMOS. its either the PSU or the MOBO it has to be. Think i will return both the MOBO and the PSU and get them to check both and replace the faulty one. So frustrating. Cant help but think i should have gone intel. Never had an issue on intel boads and i have to say AMD boards look so cheap compared to the intel counter part.

It is sammy B-die indeed Just hope the faulty board has killed anything else. I have to be honest never heard a PSU click the way this does on restart.

getting absolutely no video output at all
 
Have you tried one RAM stick at a time? Unlikely to be the CPU of you have tried 2 unless you're very unlucky.

PSU or mobo sound like possible culprits.
 
Aa83 said:
Have you tried one RAM stick at a time? Unlikely to be the CPU of you have tried 2 unless you're very unlucky.

PSU or mobo sound like possible culprits.
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Yep tried all 4 ram sticks as just one stick. Still nothing. Just stripped it all down going to call ocuk tomorrow see what they have to say. Ideally I think I will return the mobo and psu. Might ask if I can just return both and buy new ones so I'm not waiting a week or so without a machine.
 
Do you have a BIOS/boot/POST speaker connected, to hear what POST beep you are getting for errors? Also I assume you have used just one stick of RAM in all of the slots one at a time?

How are the 24 pin and 8 Power connectors looking? Do they fit snugly, not at weird angles?
 
Journey said:
Do you have a BIOS/boot/POST speaker connected, to hear what POST beep you are getting for errors? Also I assume you have used just one stick of RAM in all of the slots one at a time?

How are the 24 pin and 8 Power connectors looking? Do they fit snugly, not at weird angles?
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Unfortunately no Speaker attached and i dont have one to try. Yes to the ram question, The connectors are all fine i even just took the whole thing apart and rebuilt it just in case there was a loose wire but im a bit of a cable freak and everything has to be super neat and 100% Although i have to say building in a node 202 case is a bit of a nightmare.

Yes Amigafan i tend to agree im going to go with Power. But im sending it all back as im not playing yoyo for weeks. Also have to now return the 1700 and the corsair ram. At least i never got to see the 1700 working so it never tempted me.

NEver had to return anything really before to OCUK are they pretty good as taking stuff back?
 
Some poor advice from tech support.

Ryzen 5 supported from the release bios (this board launched more recently than most) and RAM should default to 2133mhz if it doesn't work.

Original rant about Ryzen also doesn't seem to be valid anymore.
 
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I have the same RAM kit, the fastest JEDEC profile is 2133MHz and the board will attempt to boot at that. You need to manually enable XMP for it to run at the faster speed.

As above it does sound like either the power supply or motherboard is at fault. OcUK has been pretty good taking stuff back, just drop them a message and they'll give you a RMA number and postage labels to stick on the packaging.
 
muon said:
Some poor advice from tech support.

Ryzen 5 supported from the release bios (this board launched more recently than most) and RAM should default to 2133mhz if it doesn't work.

Original rant about Ryzen also doesn't seem to be valid anymore.
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Will agree with the original rant no longer being Valid haha. I really dont want to be without a system over the weekend and like an idiot i have given my old HTPC away thinking this will be running by the weekend. Hoping they will take both back and just refund me when they get it. I guess i could always ask them to take it back under the 14 day online thing if not. But i dont want the items going back into stock for some other poor sod to end up with them.
 
Randall8686 said:
also just noticed the Ryzen 7 1700 is only 65w and the 1600X is 95w how does adding the X add so many more watts?
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As others have noted, XFR. It's a rather savage boost for 1-core tasks that makes mine shoot up as far as 1.525v. AMD claim this is normal and safe, and to be fair, it is only for short bursts, but it does pump the peak power draw quite a lot. Most of the time, including in multi-threaded loads, it's down at the same stock voltage and power draw, but if that 30w makes a difference to a small PSU, then you need to know about it :)
 
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