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DisplayPort 1.2a Specification Change Request for Industry Standard Variable Refresh Rate

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Hot on the heels of NVIDIA G-SYNC, AMD demonstrated FreeSync, something more easily done with laptop controllers (which can dynamically change refresh rate, but for power saving purposes).

To bring FreeSync to desktop monitors, AMD applied for a DisplayPort 1.2a Specification Change Request, according to this hardware.fr article

“Benefits as a result of changes
This enables the ability for external DisplayPort to take advantage of the option to ignore MSA timing parameter and have the sink slave to source timing to realize per frame dynamic refresh rate.”

http://www.blurbusters.com/displayport-spec-change-request-for-variable-refresh/
 
So going by most if not all standard implementations, we'll be seeing it some time next year if we're lucky. If it gets accepted.

W00t. Meanwhile I can buy a G-Sync monitor today. You catch my drift :D
 
Pay a premium for a hardware workaround or wait a year for a standard.

Even if it's 2 years it's no biggie for me, I just bought into 1440 and I'm satisfied with the value for money I got. Next iteration I get something better and I don't pay for a hack.

Everyman will be different, spend your budget where you think it best applied.
 
Pay a premium for a hardware workaround or wait a year for a standard.

Even if it's 2 years it's no biggie for me, I just bought into 1440 and I'm satisfied with the value for money I got. Next iteration I get something better and I don't pay for a hack.

Everyman will be different, spend your budget where you think it best applied.

Spot on. I'm happy to wait it out, but each to their own. Hope they stick with the name freesync.
 
W00t. Meanwhile I can buy a G-Sync monitor today. You catch my drift :D

Meanwhile in the real world where money does matter for the majority...


You can throw money at things, 99.9% don't in the grand scheme of things with monitors way down the list of priorities.

While Gsync will sell, I don't think it will be flying of the shelves like some in here think it will.
 
I agree. And I cannot understand why someone who has a 120hz/144hz monitor, going to splash money to buy a 60hz monitor that will allow him not to have the sync side effects.

I run without sync on my 120hz monitor, and haven't experience any tear etc since 2011. (when bought the monitor).

Not issue with my GTX570s (2 sli), or the 7950s, nor with the GTX780 I have currently.
 
Because someone saying "I will buy one" is totally the samething as saying "they will fly off the shelves"

As we already know from this forum, people will quite happily save a hundred quid and get stuttery gameplay as long as the little counter in the corner tells them a magic number :D
 
I agree. And I cannot understand why someone who has a 120hz/144hz monitor, going to splash money to buy a 60hz monitor that will allow him not to have the sync side effects.

I run without sync on my 120hz monitor, and haven't experience any tear etc since 2011. (when bought the monitor).

Not issue with my GTX570s (2 sli), or the 7950s, nor with the GTX780 I have currently.

What 60hz monitor? Allof the gsyncmonitors announced so far are 120hz+
 
Because someone saying "I will buy one" is totally the samething as saying "they will fly off the shelves"

As we already know from this forum, people will quite happily save a hundred quid and get stuttery gameplay as long as the little counter in the corner tells them a magic number :D

I don't bench anything unless I see a problem, for me it's all about the experience I have while playing. The biggest problems I have are not related to tearing but more to buggy releases and general bad behaviour by other people online.

But that's just me, everyone has their own priorities I guess.
 
I agree. And I cannot understand why someone who has a 120hz/144hz monitor, going to splash money to buy a 60hz monitor that will allow him not to have the sync side effects.

I run without sync on my 120hz monitor, and haven't experience any tear etc since 2011. (when bought the monitor).

Not issue with my GTX570s (2 sli), or the 7950s, nor with the GTX780 I have currently.

I don't think you know what G-Sync is.

Because someone saying "I will buy one" is totally the samething as saying "they will fly off the shelves"

As we already know from this forum, people will quite happily save a hundred quid and get stuttery gameplay as long as the little counter in the corner tells them a magic number :D

I am buying one but that doesn't mean I feel they will be flying off the shelves. Not sure where conclusions get drawn up from at times but laughable none the less. People are happy to save money to do some fiddling with AB to get it running 'as it should', which is fair enough and some just want it to work, which is also fair enough. FreeSync will be great for those that are happy to wait but G-Sync is here and now.
 
Meanwhile in the real world where money does matter for the majority...


You can throw money at things, 99.9% don't in the grand scheme of things with monitors way down the list of priorities.

While Gsync will sell, I don't think it will be flying of the shelves like some in here think it will.

omg yawn, why are you even here if you honestly think that? No disrespect but what's the point? And others saying "I don't mind waiting a year or two". In this industry that is MIND boggling... I don't even know what to think :D.


NV are such money grabbers aren't they. Giving you something that we won't see for months and months yet...It's not what was said, but it's clearly implied in most instances like this.


Gimmi a break! Not even funny lol.

And whilst we're here...I don't see a monitor of all things way down the list. After all it's what you're looking at???

Monitor is the least item that should be overlooked.
 
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Yeah but sell it before it loses value when the new monitors arrive if this specification gets ratified.

It will get approved, as AMD was involved with the Display port spec originally.
Good to see AMD pushing the open standard approach.

Enjoy Gsync while it's around, who going to buy a monitor that supports it, will always be a few diehards who will.
 
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Also nobody is entirely sure how G-Syncs scaler actually works...so you could well be waiting for a standard with variable VBLANK that isn't as good. After all, when is integration EVER faster?


Ever...
 
Did it get accepted then? Link in op just says applied for. Wouldn't it be a smarter move to push it on to dp1.3?

I do love how some jump on this as the instant death of gsync. How many of you have used either solution? None. How many of you are actually clued up enough to know the exact ins and outs of either technology? Very few. How many know if the free solution will be as good or better then gsync? Again a big dirty zero.

Wise up and embrace new tech not jump on new techs backs as soon as you get the chance.
 
omg yawn, why are you even here if you honestly think that? No disrespect but what's the point? And others saying "I don't mind waiting a year or two". In this industry that is MIND boggling... I don't even know what to think :D.


NV are such money grabbers aren't they. Giving you something that we won't see for months and months yet...It's not what was said, but it's clearly implied in most instances like this.


Gimmi a break! Not even funny lol.

And whilst we're here...I don't see a monitor of all things way down the list. After all it's what you're looking at???

Monitor is the least item that should be overlooked.

U mad Bro? You've edited more times than I've even posted here LOL

At the end of the day it's down to what people think is the best bang for buck, if you've just bought a new monitor like I have for fidelity reasons you are hardly going to go backwards to G-Sync on a poopy old low res TN panel are you? Or even a poopy little low res LED screen period - it might be your thing but it's not for everyone, and again that's what it's all about.
 
Did it get accepted then? Link in op just says applied for. Wouldn't it be a smarter move to push it on to dp1.3?

I do love how some jump on this as the instant death of gsync. How many of you have used either solution? None. How many of you are actually clued up enough to know the exact ins and outs of either technology? Very few. How many know if the free solution will be as good or better then gsync? Again a big dirty zero.

Wise up and embrace new tech not jump on new techs backs as soon as you get the chance.

Well said!
 
I agree. And I cannot understand why someone who has a 120hz/144hz monitor, going to splash money to buy a 60hz monitor that will allow him not to have the sync side effects.

I run without sync on my 120hz monitor, and haven't experience any tear etc since 2011. (when bought the monitor).

Not issue with my GTX570s (2 sli), or the 7950s, nor with the GTX780 I have currently.

What 60hz monitor? Allof the gsyncmonitors announced so far are 120hz+

Most people talk about 60hz because to show up as big a difference as possible Nvidia showed all demos on their 144hz screens being used at 60hz........

At 120hz the maximum difference between g-sync/non g-sync halves, at 144hz it's even less. Not a single Nvidia demo used 144hz on ASUS's leading brand 144Hz screens......... because if you have a frame rate/monitor running beyond 60hz the benefit is minimal, or non existent.

This is the main thing, I'm interested in the tech but at no stage have thought it would be particularly applicable to me, running higher refresh and high frame rate freesync/g-sync will be limited.

I also don't fancy spending, particularly on an overpriced monitor, on a new monitor with SO many good things coming monitor side in not too long. 4k at sensible prices, OLED's, etc.

For the probably majority of guys that would spend £400+ on a high end screen to replace their current £400 high end not to old 144Hz screens, how many are gaming at or below 60hz anyway? at 60fps plus, blurring is a much MUCH bigger deal, somewhat dealt with currently with low persistence modes, but they are quite flickery and suffer from panel reactivity problems still, particularly on higher quality panels as IPS/MVA aren't there yet for high refresh.

OLED will bring high quality screens with the potential for 144hz and above, with brilliant blacks, brilliant colour reproduction and exceptional low persistence.

I'm still waiting on OLED, and hope it won't be more than 18-24 months now, freesync/g-sync will just be icing on the cake of my next monitor, not the reason for buying it.
 
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