Do any modern TVs come with gigabit ethernet yet?
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Caporegime
I can't think of any. I think the manufacturers are taking the view that the majority of consumers will be using WiFi, and if they're not, they'll have a separate device with a Gigabit Ethernet port if they really need it.
It's a bit daft in terms of cost, but they'll find ways to save money at every turn to maximise profits. $2 over millions of sets adds up quickly.
It's a bit daft in terms of cost, but they'll find ways to save money at every turn to maximise profits. $2 over millions of sets adds up quickly.
Soldato
Exactly as above, I can't think of any either. As long as you have 'good' Wifi most modern TV will happy stream 4K content that's properly encoded.
It's actually putting me off buying a new TV, as I keep thinking, well maybe next year they'll finally put that 25yr old (gigabit) socket on a TV.
I've tried wireless and it's just not as reliable and solid as a dedicated wired connection. My primary issue is with Plex, which with high quality sources can get near/burst 100Mbps.
I've tried wireless and it's just not as reliable and solid as a dedicated wired connection. My primary issue is with Plex, which with high quality sources can get near/burst 100Mbps.
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You can get USB 3.0 to Gigabit Ethernet adapters that work quite well with certain TV's like Sony.
Soldato
Yeah but even my really old Apple TV can pull 350Mbps over wifi
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Yeh, tried that. The problem with that is is then stops YouTube casting from working for some odd reason. Guess because the TV looks at its ethernet and its wifi and sees no connection?
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I know technically that TVs with a good wifi connection should never face issues with live steams even of high bitrates. In reality though, for whatever reason, they still do. Gigabit would eradicate any such bottleneck for a very long time even up to 8K streams (not that we are anywhere near ready or demanding of that). They skimp because they can. Try a USB to gigabit adapter in all of your ports and see how you get on. The results can be surprising. Some of the ports are USB2, some USB3. Some of them seem to be nerfed from working properly. Some don't work at all depending on TV and adapter combination. In my LG OLED I think I can get about 300mbps with one off the top of my head. There is another thread about this where rates were posted.
Soldato
They skimp because wifi does the job, good wifi can easily stream 4k, when 8k is needed I presume they will just use Wifi7. Don't get me wrong I'd love to see Gigabit ethernet on TVs but I think they would have done that already if they were going to.
The only time my TV struggles is when the encoding is poor, meaning the TV can't decode in hardware, I think this is probably the issue when people think it's the wifi struggling.
The only time my TV struggles is when the encoding is poor, meaning the TV can't decode in hardware, I think this is probably the issue when people think it's the wifi struggling.
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I'll try my USB->Gigabit ethernet adapter again. But I'm fairly certain, it breaks the YouTube cast feature on my LG E7 TV.
Interesting... Wired/Ethernet/USB Adapter all give me <100mbps on my LG E7. So maybe it's a limitation of a chip in the TV?
Also, using the USB adapter means I cannot YouTube cast to the TV. Even though I have an internet connection, I assume because Ethernet says "No Connection" and Wifi says "No Connection" the Google/YouTube app isn't happy.
Also, using the USB adapter means I cannot YouTube cast to the TV. Even though I have an internet connection, I assume because Ethernet says "No Connection" and Wifi says "No Connection" the Google/YouTube app isn't happy.
Soldato
My TV gives me approx 300Mbps over Wifi (5Ghz)
Well, I connected my E7 to my wifi network, and with a speed test (via the TVs browser) is was literally bouncing just below 100mbps. Just like my wired connection. So I assume it's a chip limit in the TV?
Soldato
I stand corrected. Using the Netflix speed test, ethernet & the USB gigabit ethernet connection give me <100mbps. Wifi reads 120-130mbps, which given my internet is 145mbps, is probably bouncing off that.
Not sure how I can test my internal network speed itself.
Not sure how I can test my internal network speed itself.
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Soldato
I have a Docker called LibreSpeedtest on my NAS so I can run internal speed tests to anything that has a webrowser such as my TV.
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TBH I'm not sure I test the speed results from the brower in my E7. The browser feels very slow and clunky
I have a samsung TV with 100Mbps port and can play large Plex files locally (LAN) and even had other people with a Samsung TV do the same from my server remotely (1GBPs connectins at both ends) remotely.
Check your Plex for a setting called "Force Direct Play" and "Disable Bitrate Limiting". This fixed the issue for me. Currently your large files are probably using Direct Stream.
On Netflix speedtest I get:
90ish MBPs with cable (TV's 100MBPs port)
270ish over wifi (5Ghz)
300ish using a usb gigabit ethernet adaptor (I guess USB 3.0)
All of them made my large files buffer or stop playing after a minute, until I found the 2 settings I mentioned. Now all 3 options playback instantly, even when skipping forward and back within a file. So now I just use the built in ethernet port!
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The Above didn't work on my LG OLED B7, I've got the Force Direct Play option but not the Disable Bitrate Limiting one. Playing a 4K rip of John Wick 2 has it buffering a few times in the first couple of minutes when it's wired, but switched to WiFi and it goes away.
Next tiime I get some buffering (over lan), I'll try wifi out of interest.