Do earth directed CME's affect our behaviour

colzboppo · 15 Jun 2012 at 13:05

Got a keen interest in science and in particular solar weather, I have often wondered what if any affect massive swathes of energized particles could have on peoples behaviour.

For example, the London riots and what sparked off a massive country wide chaos, was actually accompanied by a double or triple whammy of massive solar activity and earth directed CME's.

There is also a noted correlation between car accidents, heart attacks, and CMEs/solar activity. We are fast approaching solar maxima in 2013, what are the possible consequences other than satellites shutting down temporarily?

Interestingly, we have a double CME cloud impact heading our way tonight, I often notice increased energy and even a bit of insomnia when these sorts of things occur.

Anyone else? thoughts?

touch · 15 Jun 2012 at 13:14

colzboppo said:
There is also a noted correlation between car accidents [...] and CMEs/solar activity.

colzboppo said:
satellites shutting down temporarily?

No satellites = no GPS = people having to navigate manually = brain overload = car accidents

Spenty · 15 Jun 2012 at 13:16

_Paul · 15 Jun 2012 at 13:32

CME Clouds, Riots, England playing on a Friday night? If they lose London is going to burn.

Efour · 15 Jun 2012 at 13:33

this is General discussion so for most people that are sittting here thinking WTF?

Coronal mass ejections (CME) aka "the **** the sun spits out when it burps"

colzboppo · 15 Jun 2012 at 13:40

Spenty said:

Smart guy, protection from the CMEs damaging ion waves is key here, and quite fetching too.

Dave M · 15 Jun 2012 at 13:45

colzboppo said:
Interestingly, we have a double CME cloud impact heading our way tonight, I often notice increased energy and even a bit of insomnia when these sorts of things occur.

Anyone else? thoughts?

Do you log when you feel increased energy and then at a later date correlate with CME events or do you know there is a CME coming event and then feel increased energy?

Raumarik · 15 Jun 2012 at 13:50

lolkwer..oh

LordSplodge · 15 Jun 2012 at 13:50

It's possible that the increased levels of radiation may affect behaviour. Perhaps somebody should do/has done a scientific study?

Six7th · 15 Jun 2012 at 13:58

colzboppo said:
There is also a noted correlation between car accidents, heart attacks, and CMEs/solar activity.

Correlation don't necessarily mean anything.

CMEs contain mostly protons and electrons, of which most are deflected by the earth's magnetic field. If people were to become irradiated I don't think there behaviour would change that quickly, if at all. Is there any scientific study on the effect of radiation on human behaviour?

Astronauts and airline passengers are most at risk from radiation and we never see them going crazy.

colzboppo · 15 Jun 2012 at 14:07

Actually a lot of the particles will hit the poles and get absorbed by the earths atmosphere, the earth is coupled to the charge of its atmosphere, and we live in that atmosphere, whose to say it doesn't have a real effect on us all ?

Feek · 15 Jun 2012 at 14:51

No.

But they can cause big problems with HF propagation.

SlyReaper · 15 Jun 2012 at 15:33

colzboppo said:
There is also a noted correlation between car accidents, heart attacks, and CMEs/solar activity.

Citation please. I have never heard of such a correlation. I've also heard people claim there's a correlation between full moons and criminal activity, which also turns out to be bunkum if you look at the data.

Hank_Marvin · 15 Jun 2012 at 16:58

Telescopi said:
Do you log when you feel increased energy and then at a later date correlate with CME events or do you know there is a CME coming event and then feel increased energy?

Just what I was going to post, I suspect the latter.

dowie · 15 Jun 2012 at 18:00

colzboppo said:
For example, the London riots and what sparked off a massive country wide chaos, was actually accompanied by a double or triple whammy of massive solar activity and earth directed CME's.
[...]
Interestingly, we have a double CME cloud impact heading our way tonight, I often notice increased energy and even a bit of insomnia when these sorts of things occur.

Anyone else? thoughts?

lol wat????

(FWIW you stated you have an interest in science - you seem to already be considering that these things do have an affect and are now adding to it with your own singular subjective experience. - I wouldn't place too much emphasis on whatever you mean by 'increased energy' or your bit of insomnia you're apparently experiencing)

RomanNose · 15 Jun 2012 at 18:03

I wish I had Coronal mass ejections, it would make my evenings much better.

The Halk · 15 Jun 2012 at 18:09

OP : Please find out what directed means. The sun is not sentient.

ltnmzh · 15 Jun 2012 at 18:28

Spenty said:

We are talking about high energy particles. tinfoil hats have no use.

Feek · 17 Jun 2012 at 14:42

Well it's hit and there's a massive geomagnetic storm in progress right now. HF band conditions are dreadful, there's practically nothing there.

That should be flat.

http://www.irf.se/Observatory/?link[Magnetometers]=Data

olivier renault · 17 Jun 2012 at 16:28

colzboppo said:
Interestingly, we have a double CME cloud impact heading our way tonight.

I didn't know.

But thanks for the sleepless night, now that I'm gonna obsess over it all day.