Quite so. Added to these testimonies are the current technological advances we are making in science which is having an effect on the way we should think about such things. I would go as far as to say paradigm shift since we are no longer talking about the existence of ET's but what to do about the potential or likelyhood of invasion from them (it seems):
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Quite so. Added to these testimonies are the current technological advances we are making in science which is having an effect on the way we should think about such things. I would go as far as to say paradigm shift since we are no longer talking about the existence of ET's but what to do about the potential or likelyhood of invasion from them (it seems):
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I always remember in the mid 90's being a passenger in a car where the driver had his own Cessna and we were going to fly it.
We were travelling down the A50 to Uttoxeter when I noticed an object to my left and I jokingly said 'A UFO'.
We were travelling for ages with this very strange object over in the distance and my mate decided to pull over into a layby and another car pulled behind us because they had been watching the same thing.
All 5 of us were standing there amazed and my mate flew light aircraft and couldn't make out what it was.
About 1 minute later the object turned and it was a bloody helicopter.
To this day we don't know what position it was in but IT WAS LIKE SOMETHING WE HAD NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
If it had flown behind a mountain while still in a weird position to us, I would be telling a UFO sighting story now.
In the late 70s I saw a neighbour looking up at the sky and within minutes the whole Grove was out.
One neighbour called the Police and two were standing with us watching this UFO hovering in the sky somewhere over Stoke.
My next door neighbour came out, asked what we were looking at, looked up to the sky and said 'Harrier Jump Jet' and walked back in.
A few minutes later it took off and it was clearly a Harrier Jet that had decided to hover.
IT WAS LIKE SOMETHING I HAD NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
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Was it like SOMETHING YOU HAD NEVER SEEN BEFORE
if something had happened and you never saw it bank you would be talking about a UFO now.
I know plenty of people in occupations that require them to be of sound mind who are totally bat**** crazy....at the top of that list are fighter pilots tbh.
lol. Clearly I understand what both yourself and dimple are saying: and whilst I am believer, I would never entertain anything as mundane as a blip or an unidentified object to be anything but mundane unless it were to be confirmed otherwise from close up. Too much room for error as regards judgement. However, close up the mundane should be easily identifiable and I gather from the testimonies Richdog was talking about, they were and remained unidentifiable.
Dimple and Glaucus, are you both suggesting that in every single case of someone seeing an unidentified object in the sky, they believe it is of extra-terrestrial origin? Military pilots don't report UFOs because they think they're aliens, they report them because whatever they are, they're operational hazards.
Just because objects in the distance can deceive us, doesn't mean the every object we see in the distance is a deception.
Castiel, can you define bat**** crazy? Your bat**** crazy might be different to my bat**** crazy.
Just because objects in the distance can deceive us, doesn't mean the every object we see in the distance is a deception.
Castiel, can you define bat**** crazy? Your bat**** crazy might be different to my bat**** crazy.
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That's not to say you cannot see an unidentified object that is genuine just because you are crazy though is it?
Nope, but a genuine unidentified object is exactly that, unidentified....it doesn't make it an Alien Starship.
Are you referring to me because I am not necessarily denying anything: just pointing out the fact it is easy to be mistaken about what it is you are referring to at long distances. I make no judgement about aliens one way or another.
Trust me, when I say bat**** crazy I mean totally certifiably insane. I would no doubt be most peoples idea of bat**** crazy, and some of these guys make me look the positively sanest person in the known Universe........
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I didn't say that it necessarily does. Only that you may be able to make a better judgement about what it is you are either seeing or trying to describe.
I was not referring to you and have amended my post. I often forget how quickly other posts can turn up whilst I'm still writing my own.
Quite, however I was replying to comments that because someone may be a pilot or scientist that they automatically are sound of mind and that their judgement is indeed superior to someone else.....in my experience those two groups are the most likely to be otherwise and given that it is very rare for someone in those professions to report such as anything other than simply unidentified to unable to ascertain, I would be doubly sceptical of reports that make specific claims as to the nature of such sightings.
I put to you that they're bat**** crazy outside of the workplace. If you're fighter pilot mates were bat**** crazy in the workplace, they'd be out of the job or dead. Their yearly psycho analysis evaluation would ring some alarm bells, I'm sure.
The point you make about operational hazards is an interesting one as I am still trying to get my head around the object that nearly hit a police helicopter hovering over a military base in South wales a few years back.
To state the obvious, it was occupying airspace over a military base and secondly the police helicopter had to get the hell out of the way. No discription of the object was given except that it was a unusual object.
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You would be surprised. Crazy is crazy.
Also you might want to consider that when such pilots claim to have seen Alien UFOs they are almost always 'retired'.
Oh yes, I remember that story. A strange one indeed.
I presume that's because they wouldn't like to be kicked out of the job for not having a sound mind!