Do people like this.....

well i agree with you, because all those people will try linux. they will fail at linux. they will then hate linux, and tell everyone that it is crap.

although i dont like linux, i can appreciate scenarios where it is useful - these people won't.
 
all those people will try linux. they will fail at linux. they will then hate linux, and tell everyone that it is crap.

I agree that linux distros are not at the stage where they should be given to people who have never heard of linux as they won't be able to use it and get put off for life.

To get to the stage where anyone can use it immediately should be the aim of linux if it wants to significantly expand its user base though.
 
I have to disagree on some level.
well i agree with you, because all those people will try linux. they will fail at linux. they will then hate linux, and tell everyone that it is crap.
However, these people, who are employed as computer technicians and salesmen, have never even heard of Linux. Now they've seen an expert demonstrate some of its more impressive features and talk about why he loves it so dearly. I can certainly see how that could plants the seeds of interest, so to speak. Sure, they might try it at home. They might think it's neat. They might fail completely when it comes to installing and using Linux. However, since they've seen someone use it well they know that it is possible for Linux to be awesome, despite the fact that they themselves did not succeed.

Imagine if it happened a little differently. This guy did not demonstrate anything to those kids. Imagine that one of them was reading something on the web and it mentioned Ubuntu, or Fedora, or any other popular distro.
"Hey," he thinks to himself, "I wonder what all this hubbub is about." He downloads Ubuntu and boots the CD.
"Ooh, it's a desktop. It's orange. I can browse the internet using this Firefox thing. Now what? Gee this LiveCD thing is slow. Linux is slow. How do I install MSN? Why don't any games work?"

Because of this evangelist's actions, they were impressed by Linux. That probably wouldn't have happened otherwise. The kids have seen that in the hands of an experienced user that they system flies and does all sorts of neat things that Windows doesn't do.

Sure, they might be soured by the experience, but at least now they know about it. They might also become interested and peruse it further, gaining necessary knowledge.

The fact that the techs seemed to think that competing with Microsoft was illegal suggests that they have a lot to learn about the computer industry in general.
I agree that linux distros are not at the stage where they should be given to people who have never heard of linux as they won't be able to use it and get put off for life.

To get to the stage where anyone can use it immediately should be the aim of linux if it wants to significantly expand its user base though.
Windows isn't at this point either! The difference is that in many occasions Windows comes installed when Auntie Marge buys a computer. Windows is what computers look like and that's the end of it. Linux has to push beyond that and actually make the users install it for themselves. Most don't care about computers that much. Of the ones that do, only a subset have the technical skills necessary to research, download, burn, install, etc.

The ease-of-use of the usual Ubuntu installer versus the Windows XP installer is not even a fair contest. Ubuntu would win every time. Accommodating pre-existing Windows/Linux/other installations is where Linux installers get complicated. This is simply something the Windows installer doesn't do.
 
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I read that a few days to go. Generally I agree with letting people know about Linux, and correcting some Ignorance. But that guy kind of came across like someone who preaches religion in street, or comes knocking at my door. That p*****s me off...
 
The ease-of-use of the usual Ubuntu installer versus the Windows XP installer is not even a fair contest. Ubuntu would win every time.

This may generally be the case - I wouldn't know because gutsy gibbon wouldn't install on my pc. Having recently isntalled vista 64 bit as well (which was a breeze) I'd have say that won for me.

I installed fedora 8 without a problem and it was very easy however they should still have more explanation about the partition section (maybe a clear faq) in the installation to help new users know what to do. I did but only because I had read up about partitions and the anaconda options beforehand.

Fedora 8 was as simple for me as vista but I probably know more about partitions etc than the average user.
 
You don't NEED to have multiple partitions though. It can be installed with just the default which creates one partition with the OS and one swap (no messing about required), much like windows for the most part, except it doesn't have a swap partition.

However having at last a separate partition for home is one of the huge advantages of Linux imo.
 
I'm not saying it's necessarily a good thing to walk around preaching like that but if he was able to get people who are ostensibly interested in computers and software to listen and become interested I'd count it as a job well done. If he started to blather on, RMS-style, about Linux and Freedom and software and such and nobody wanted to listen I would count it as bad. These people were interested.

The oddest thing is the he carried a dozen-plus LiveCDs with him when shopping. :p
 
I'm not saying it's necessarily a good thing to walk around preaching like that but if he was able to get people who are ostensibly interested in computers and software to listen and become interested I'd count it as a job well done. If he started to blather on, RMS-style, about Linux and Freedom and software and such and nobody wanted to listen I would count it as bad. These people were interested.

The oddest thing is the he carried a dozen-plus LiveCDs with him when shopping. :p

You're in America, have you had any contact with the geek squad? are they really that bad?
 
BestBuy in general is pretty bad as far as computers are concerned. They're really just about average, perhaps on the low end of that. They're your basic pimply-faced youth making low wages with insufficient formal training. The marketing of the GS service is perhaps the real irritant as they're pushed as some sort of technical panacea. There have also been some scandals and such stemming from GeekSquad employees copying data from customers' computers, particularly movies, music, and photos.

They're just about as bad as any other PC shop might employ since real technicians cost a lot of money and places like that rely on high profit margins.
 
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