Do PHEVs charge whilst driving?

[Banzai_Joe]

Well, i know the answer is that "some do", but is it just down to whether a specific car does or does not?
The Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV recharges the battery once its depleted and if you're on a long journey, say on the motorway then once its been recharged it can auto switch to electric again, until depleted.....rinse and repeat hence their wild claim of up to 147mpg.

So, what about other PHEV's? I know regenerative braking helps, but do they all offer that too?

 

[Banzai_Joe]

Thanks so far everyone.
just noticed the govt has reduced the EV grant. I was looking for a corsa-e for my wife and the PCP has gone from £245pcm to over £355 in the past week.
Who on this planet, and with a a brain would pay that much for a corsa-e? Especially as they were over£100 cheaper per month the week before?
The whole care industry has gone bananas. Surely if the prices crash once you've signed a PCP then you're gonna be in big trouble at the end of the term?

 

[Banzai_Joe]

prices have fluctuated massively this past year, how can you be sure in saying they wont 'crash' or at least fluctuate enough so that they are affordable again?
I had a PCP offer for a corsa-e SE Premium in July for £205 pcm, now its £355 for the same car. Anyone with any sense would stick 2 fingers up and say "no thanks". That's a downright rip!
My car in July 2021 was worth £18k, it was recently valued at £23k. So the fluctuations are huge.

 

[Banzai_Joe]

This plus big manufactures like Merc and BMW have said they are going to move to selling less cars at a much high price model as well.

The shortage of microchips have allowed them to reset prices. I noticed with the Merc GLE hybrid I ordered last year the list price went up by £6,000 in October and the car came with around £3,000 less kit as standard so more than a 10% price hike.

I cant see that price ever dropping back to where it was.

with respect mate, if people are daft enough to buy it at a higher price for less spec, then brands are going to continue doing it.
But sooner or later the shortage of chips will end, then what excuse can they offer? If peoples salaries don't increase to match car price hike, then what will happen?
Last week i could place and order for the exact spec corsa-e that i wanted (9 week waiting list) and it would be cheaper with more benefits than buying a pre-reg corsa-e that was available now. So.........if that's the case how on earth would they shift the existing cars on the forecourt?

Could anybody reading this thread, albeit we've gone off topic now, honestly say that regardless of the brand of car i'd mentioned, they'd be willing to spend over 70% more per month than they would have had they signed a deal last week?
Even if they could afford it, would they?

 

[Banzai_Joe]

Fluctuation implies prices go up and down, in reality they’ve gone up and stayed up.

Prices are not going to come down any time soon because there is a shortage of new cars compared to demand. That has been the case for the best part of 12+ months since the first unlocking.

You’ve got 12+ months worth of pent up demand, anything remotely desired in the used market has shot up in price.

Even if the supply was fixed tomorrow, they’ve still got a backlog which started building up 12+ months ago. The issue is that it isn’t fixed so the backlog continues to grow. Some manufacturers are now taking orders for 2023 delivery.

For the prices to crash, there would need to be a load of stock dumped onto the market, that stock simply doesn’t exist.

What’s likely to happen is that supply will eventually catch up with demand, prices will stabilise and then start to slowly decrease, if they decrease at all. You also have to consider that for the next decade+, there is going to be a shortage filtering through the used market. This will continue pushing up prices for used and new cars because there simply isn’t enough on the roads to service that demand.

Yeah.....thanks, it kind of makes [business] sense. its just crazy.

 

[Banzai_Joe]

Dealer pricing is very opaque at the best of times. Prices vary significantly week to week, even before covid. It just depends if they have some cars to sell or not and if they have any margin that they can eat or not.

I would have said £205/month for a Corsa-E was an absolute bargain (assuming minimal down payment). £300 is much closer to where I’d expected it to have been in the current market.

I know, its crazy. £205 in July, but the wife decided she didn't want to change just yet. Had we decided last week to place an order and wait 9 weeks, then it would have been £245 and acceptable. But £357 is an absolute joke. My 3008 SUV GT cost me £336 pcm (all paid for now), so i'll be keeping that for a while longer i guess, but i was looking to change. Just can't now.

 

[Banzai_Joe]

ok, (forgetting my rant about prices) so if was doing say 15 miles a day round trip for work and maybe similar at the weekend, my thoughts were a PHEV would almost certainly give me most of my mileage on the battery, thus saving petrol. But for longer journeys I have the availability of fossil fuel to get there without range anxiety.

 

[Banzai_Joe]

See, as others have said, i kind of see a PHEV as my next step towards a BEV. Mainly due to the charging infrastructure that 'seems' to still be playing catchup against all the new sales of BEVs. (unless someone can prove otherwise). A friend of ours has a corsa-e and she plans all her longer journeys so she can charge up. The other week she went to Fulham, planned to charge up somewhere near but all the charging points were being used and it made her nearly 2 hours late.
So, until more charging points are available AND you can book your charger for an allotted time (don't know why this isn't a thing already), then BEV isn't for me right now.
Happy to have my mind changed though.