• Competitor rules

    Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.

Dodgy card installation and crappy onboard problems

krisboats

krisboats

krisboats

Soldato
Joined
17 Dec 2006
Posts
2,617
Location
Loughborough
OKay wise people of OCUK. With regards to my recent topic about getting my cousin a new graphics card i picked him up an x1650pro with ddr3. He was well chuffed upon opening it, which was great, really made it worthwhile.

Came to installing it though and had..... issues :(

Went to uninstall the old drivers for the ati xpress 200 onboard graphics and couldn't see any graphics drivers. So went to the device manager and right clicked the graphics adapter and uninstalled the driver that way... which got me to 600x400 res.

Restarted it, went into the bios and changed from peg/ied (i think its ied, its not ide but similar) to pci/ied... which i figured was changing from onboard to a pci based card (pci-E to be exact).

Switched it off, fitted the new card, and switched it back on... only theres no output visible from the new card and only the onboard seems to be working :confused:

Didn't have chance to try re-seating it as all his friends turned up for his birthday bbq and it got crowded quickly.

Would re-seating it be the issue? I can't seem to see an x1650 as a dedicated display device in the device manager so i thought it might be the reason... going over tomorrow to have another look but would like to know if i could have missed something. Windows dead say about finding an incorrect display adapter though and disabling the one that didn't work... or something to that effect.



its vista x86 by the way.
 
You should be able to see the BIOS at least, regardless of operating system.

Are you sure you somehow told the BIOS to boot using the ATi card instead of onboard? If you can not see the POST message, I would not blame the operating system.
 
drak3 said:
You should be able to see the BIOS at least, regardless of operating system.

Are you sure you somehow told the BIOS to boot using the ATi card instead of onboard? If you can not see the POST message, I would not blame the operating system.
Click to expand...

I'm not blaming anything, i just to know what i might have missed. The bit about vista was in case it helps anybody with a more suitable explanation.
 
krisboats said:
I'm not blaming anything, i just to know what i might have missed. The bit about vista was in case it helps anybody with a more suitable explanation.
Click to expand...

I was just pointing out that you can totally rule out the operating system and just look for a signal during POST, which is based on industry standards rather than mostly "buggy" drivers. :)
 
So if i try taking it out and re-inserting it today then it should display the post, regardless of any options that are set on the computer?

Sorry if i sound stupid, i've never installed a new graphics card while disbaling onboard before.
 
krisboats said:
So if i try taking it out and re-inserting it today then it should display the post, regardless of any options that are set on the computer?

Sorry if i sound stupid, i've never installed a new graphics card while disbaling onboard before.
Click to expand...

Yeah, a reseat sounds in order. Also, check that the montior cable is fixed in properly. The cable i have ATM is broken in one place, but if i fold it together at a certain point, it's all fine.
 
Okay i've been on the phone to him for a good half an hour now. He's tried re-seating it, still had the same issues.

They got the drivers installed for the new card, only this re-enables the onboard chipset in the device manager. And more to the point, upon restarting, results in a nice BSOD couting down a memory dump, will get more details when i go over at 4.00.


Other things i'm currently thinking of, he said the power supply was alright, but maybe its not enough... could this cause the card to stop functioning correctly, as the card has no molex connector, it draws its power from the power supply through the PCI-E slot. Last time i had a card with a PSU under recommended requirements though it was fine in 2d and only failed when initialising 3d apps.

Also read soemwhere that the onboard utilizes the RAM in the first slot, so moving both sticks to slots 2 & 3 would effectively cut off the opnboard videos ram and stop it functioning. Any truth to that?


Currently running out of ideas, though without looking the PSU is sounding like the cause at the minute.
 
i know this is obvious but just incase :p have you gone into your bios and set your preffered vga device to pci-e isntead of onboard? you might also have the option of disabling onboard another way through there :)
 
Down1oader said:
i know this is obvious but just incase :p have you gone into your bios and set your preffered vga device to pci-e isntead of onboard? you might also have the option of disabling onboard another way through there :)
Click to expand...

It doesn't seem to have an option thats that simple. I guess i can get more info for you all when i go round at 4.00. I guess once i find out what the mobo is i can establish what needs to be done.

Does CPUz show your motherboard details?
 
Sorry if this is a bit late, as far as i know, the option in BIOS should be set to PEG and not PCI. I think PEG stands for PCI-Express Graphics or something of the sort.

PCI would be for a standard PCI graphics card, not PCI Express.
 
gamer_boy said:
Sorry if this is a bit late, as far as i know, the option in BIOS should be set to PEG and not PCI. I think PEG stands for PCI-Express Graphics or something of the sort.

PCI would be for a standard PCI graphics card, not PCI Express.
Click to expand...

Does indeed, i was mistaken. It was on igd and when exiting the bios the options weren't saved. Went back to it today and switched it to peg/igd. At the next boot up it was able to use the card as a low res display adapter. With some installing of drivers and recovering of windows after the drivers screwed vista up and stopped it from opening i got into windows with at 1024x768. Drivers messed up again and reverted to 600x400 and some silly low amount of colours, but after updating the drivers with the vista beta ones off the ATI site it seems to be running absolutely fine.

He's happy as he can now play HL2 at full settings with full AA/AF and it doesn't drop below 30fps. Cheers for the help guys, if anyone wants to know in future.... set your ati xpress 200 bios to peg. and proceed as normal :D
 
krisboats said:
Does indeed, i was mistaken. It was on igd and when exiting the bios the options weren't saved. Went back to it today and switched it to peg/igd. At the next boot up it was able to use the card as a low res display adapter. With some installing of drivers and recovering of windows after the drivers screwed vista up and stopped it from opening i got into windows with at 1024x768. Drivers messed up again and reverted to 600x400 and some silly low amount of colours, but after updating the drivers with the vista beta ones off the ATI site it seems to be running absolutely fine.

He's happy as he can now play HL2 at full settings with full AA/AF and it doesn't drop below 30fps. Cheers for the help guys, if anyone wants to know in future.... set your ati xpress 200 bios to peg. and proceed as normal :D
Click to expand...

glad it work out ok :)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom