Does this build look ok?

[Dr.Bakewell]

My goal is to re-enter the world of pc gaming after 20 years with a cheap but upgradable gaming rig.

I'm not well versed in all these new case sizes so I've opted for a full sized case however some of the smaller cases are cheaper and quite appealing, as are motherboard choices. I'd hate to build a smaller pc and not be able to fit in a new GPU in a few years is this a valid concern?

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x CORSAIR RM Series RM650 Fully Modular 80PLUS Gold ATX Power Supply (SKU: POW-CRS-01425) = £79.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600X Six Core 5.30GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DG-AM) = £209.99
• 1 x Gigabyte X670 Gaming X AX (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-5BA-GI) = £248.99
• 1 x Crucial P3 2TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 3.0 NVMe Solid State Drive (SKU: HD-078-CR) = £119.99
• 1 x Asus Radeon RX 6600 Dual 8GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-47K-AS) = £199.99
• 1 x Lian Li Lancool III RGB Full Tower PC Case - Black (SKU: CA-7AY-LL) = £154.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-41600C40 5200MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MY-4D9-CS) = £89.99
• 1 x Cooler Master Hyper 212 Halo² Black Edition CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: HS-090-CM) = £35.99

Total: £1,139.92 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

 

[Tetras]

I'd hate to build a smaller pc and not be able to fit in a new GPU in a few years is this a valid concern?

It is awkward to say because it is one of those "it depends" questions. The easiest way to phrase it is this: the smaller your case, the less options you have. Will there still be good options to increase performance? Yes, so long as the case isn't REALLY small.

My general guidance would be:
300mm length restriction for a micro-ATX case: entry-level and lower-midrange cards only (e.g. 6600 XT, RTX 3060).
330mm length restriction for a small tower case: upper-midrange (e.g. 7800 XT, 4070 Super).
350mm length restriction for a medium tower case: high-end (e.g. 7900 XTX, 4080 Super).
400mm length restriction for a large tower case: very high-end (e.g. large custom coolers, 'ultra' editions).

What is the monitor that you're using with the PC?

Is your budget £1200?

 

[mickyflinn]

Smaller compact matx build with GPU upto 344mn in length.

Can fit a 7700xt GPU in with better m2 drive and 750w psu

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Cooler Master MasterBox TD300 Mesh Mini Tower Case - Black (SKU: CA-38K-CM) = £54.95
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core 5.10GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DW-AM) = £188.99
• 1 x MSI Pro B650M-A WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-378-MS) = £159.99
• 1 x TeamGroup Vulcan EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C38 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (FLABD532G6000HC38ADC01) (SKU: MY-0B2-TG) = £89.99
• 1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58G-WD) = £119.99
• 1 x Corsair RMx Series RM750x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (CP-9020199-UK) (SKU: CA-266-CS) = £99.95
• 1 x Gigabyte Radeon RX 7700 XT Gaming 12GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-GIG-01266) = £399.94
• 1 x AMD - Radeon Choose Two Games Bundle (SKU: DIG-AMD-02576) = £0.00
• 1 x Thermalright Assassin Spirit 120 Evo ARGB CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02720) = £21.95

Total: £1,135.75 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

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Changes made with larger case with GPU up to 440mm.​

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Get the Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX (Socket AM5) is same price , atx but not in stock at Overclockers.​

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core 5.10GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DW-AM) = £188.99
• 1 x TeamGroup Vulcan EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C38 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (FLABD532G6000HC38ADC01) (SKU: MY-0B2-TG) = £89.99
• 1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58G-WD) = £119.98
• 1 x Corsair RMx Series RM750x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (CP-9020199-UK) (SKU: CA-266-CS) = £99.95
• 1 x Gigabyte Radeon RX 7700 XT Gaming 12GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-GIG-01266) = £399.95
• 1 x AMD - Radeon Choose Two Games Bundle (SKU: DIG-AMD-02576) = £0.00
• 1 x Thermalright Assassin Spirit 120 Evo ARGB CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02720) = £21.95
• 1 x Phanteks XT Pro Ultra ATX Case Tempered Glass Window, Black (SKU: CAS-PHK-01443) = £66.95

Total: £987.76 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

 

[Dr.Bakewell]

It is awkward to say because it is one of those "it depends" questions. The easiest way to phrase it is this: the smaller your case, the less options you have. Will there still be good options to increase performance? Yes, so long as the case isn't REALLY small.

My general guidance would be:
300mm length restriction for a micro-ATX case: entry-level and lower-midrange cards only (e.g. 6600 XT, RTX 3060).
330mm length restriction for a small tower case: upper-midrange (e.g. 7800 XT, 4070 Super).
350mm length restriction for a medium tower case: high-end (e.g. 7900 XTX, 4080 Super).
400mm length restriction for a large tower case: very high-end (e.g. large custom coolers, 'ultra' editions).

What is the monitor that you're using with the PC?

Is your budget £1200?

I was gonna opt for a 24" 1080p monitor with that GPU but am open to recommendations, better GPU and a 1440 monitor for example. Roughly 1200 yeah (monitor separate)

 

[Dr.Bakewell]

It is awkward to say because it is one of those "it depends" questions. The easiest way to phrase it is this: the smaller your case, the less options you have. Will there still be good options to increase performance? Yes, so long as the case isn't REALLY small.

My general guidance would be:
300mm length restriction for a micro-ATX case: entry-level and lower-midrange cards only (e.g. 6600 XT, RTX 3060).
330mm length restriction for a small tower case: upper-midrange (e.g. 7800 XT, 4070 Super).
350mm length restriction for a medium tower case: high-end (e.g. 7900 XTX, 4080 Super).
400mm length restriction for a large tower case: very high-end (e.g. large custom coolers, 'ultra' editions).

What is the monitor that you're using with the PC?

Is your budget £1200?

I was gonna opt for a 24" 1080p monitor with that GPU but am open to recommendations, better GPU and a 1440 monitor for example. Roughly 1200 yeah (monitor separste

Smaller compact matx build with GPU upto 344mn in length.

Can fit a 7700xt GPU in with better m2 drive and 750w psu

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Cooler Master MasterBox TD300 Mesh Mini Tower Case - Black (SKU: CA-38K-CM) = £54.95
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core 5.10GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DW-AM) = £188.99
• 1 x MSI Pro B650M-A WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-378-MS) = £159.99
• 1 x TeamGroup Vulcan EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C38 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (FLABD532G6000HC38ADC01) (SKU: MY-0B2-TG) = £89.99
• 1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58G-WD) = £119.99
• 1 x Corsair RMx Series RM750x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (CP-9020199-UK) (SKU: CA-266-CS) = £99.95
• 1 x Gigabyte Radeon RX 7700 XT Gaming 12GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-GIG-01266) = £399.94
• 1 x AMD - Radeon Choose Two Games Bundle (SKU: DIG-AMD-02576) = £0.00
• 1 x Thermalright Assassin Spirit 120 Evo ARGB CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02720) = £21.95

Total: £1,135.75 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

​

Changes made with larger case with GPU up to 440mm.​

​

Get the Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX (Socket AM5) is same price , atx but not in stock at Overclockers.​

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core 5.10GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DW-AM) = £188.99
• 1 x TeamGroup Vulcan EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C38 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (FLABD532G6000HC38ADC01) (SKU: MY-0B2-TG) = £89.99
• 1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58G-WD) = £119.98
• 1 x Corsair RMx Series RM750x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (CP-9020199-UK) (SKU: CA-266-CS) = £99.95
• 1 x Gigabyte Radeon RX 7700 XT Gaming 12GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-GIG-01266) = £399.95
• 1 x AMD - Radeon Choose Two Games Bundle (SKU: DIG-AMD-02576) = £0.00
• 1 x Thermalright Assassin Spirit 120 Evo ARGB CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02720) = £21.95
• 1 x Phanteks XT Pro Ultra ATX Case Tempered Glass Window, Black (SKU: CAS-PHK-01443) = £66.95

Total: £987.76 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

Thanks so much for these recommendations.

 

[Tetras]

I was gonna opt for a 24" 1080p monitor with that GPU but am open to recommendations, better GPU and a 1440 monitor for example. Roughly 1200 yeah (monitor separste

The latter would definitely be my choice, a better GPU and a 1440p monitor, especially if you're mainly interested in the visuals and play single player games.

A competitive esports/FPS gamer might be content with 1080p @ high refresh.

Since you already have some builds from mickyflinn, I'll just share my comments on yours.

1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600X Six Core 5.30GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DG-AM) = £209.99

If the 7600 non-X is decently cheaper, I'd go with that. It also includes a cooler which you could keep as a spare, whereas the 7600X doesn't have one. The 7700 non-X has a better cooler, though not worth it unless you see a good deal.

1 x Corsair Vengeance 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-41600C40 5200MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MY-4D9-CS) = £89.99

For stock running this is fine, but it is a bit slow for non-X3D CPUs. You can see some benches here (take the 7700X as equivalent to any 7600/7700 CPU in terms of memory performance):

Ryzen 9 7950X3D Memory Scaling Benchmark, Does DDR5 Performance Matter?

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1 x Gigabyte X670 Gaming X AX (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-5BA-GI) = £248.99

X670 is generally regarded as... weird. Part of the reason for that, is the main advantage is the extra lanes, which gives you four M.2 slots, but it still only has PCI-E 4.0 graphics, just like B650 which is much cheaper.

If I wanted to go X670, I think I'd get the TUF X670E-Plus, so that I have PCI-E 5.0 graphics, or if I didn't care about the M.2 slots or PCI-E 5.0, then just a regular B650 board.

The main use case that X670 would make sense, is if you need plenty of storage and don't want any lane sharing, but don't care about PCI-E 5.0.

Motherboard prices @ OCUK have gone a bit wild lately, but I'd expect them to be something like:
B650: 140-170
B650E: 170 - 230
X670: 170 - 230
X670E: 230 - 300

There is a degree of overlap between the boards, so there are B650E boards that cost £300, for example, but they're well equipped.

1 x Lian Li Lancool III RGB Full Tower PC Case - Black (SKU: CA-7AY-LL) = £154.99

I'd hate to build a smaller pc and not be able to fit in a new GPU in a few years is this a valid concern?

The GPU length restriction I mentioned earlier is the main problem with smaller cases, but in terms of cooling, 2x 120mm front intake (or larger) is enough for the majority of PCs, so if you have some big fans and enough physical space, there's really no need to worry.

The main type of PC that I'd recommend the Lancool III would be where they are going to fit a large graphics card, like a 7900 XTX or 4080 Super and a high-end CPU that would benefit from a 360mm AIO fitted in the roof. The Lancool III and Phanteks P600S are both good cases for that kind of build.

A more modest alternative is the Phanteks XT Pro Ultra in mickyflinn's build, Phanteks P400S, or Lian Li 216. They all include enough fans to get you going and have decent clearance for the graphics card.

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[pastymuncher]

A extra tenner gets 32Gb of 6000mhz C38 DDR5. 5200mhz is far too slow these days, especially as the new cpu's are expected to support faster memory.

 

[Dr.Bakewell]

Thanks for the advice all. I've just pushed the button on a build with the adjustments suggested.

I really appreciate everyones time taken to help me out and I'll post some pics of my build once done.

 

[Craig_d1]

what did you go for in the end? please not the x670 mobo

 

[Dr.Bakewell]

what did you go for in the end? please not the x670 mobo

No I went for the 650 gaming edition