Dog Breeding right or wrong?

Surfer

Surfer

Surfer

Soldato
Joined
31 Dec 2005
Posts
11,179
Location
Glasgow
What do you think about dog breeding?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...gs-leading-to-cruel-abnormalities-902853.html


Someone in my local area is selling maltese puppies at £1000 each (5 puppies) so a nice little earner for them. (they arent a professional breeder they say though)

I somehow feel instinctively that this is wrong for a variety of reasons first of which is there are lots of dogs that need homes that are currently homed by various charities. Without a home at some point those charities will have to face the task (due to increasing economic constraints) of having to put the dogs down.

Convince me that selling animals mainly for profit is all well and good - coz at the moment i think its sick.... (possibly an overreaction on my part)
:(
 
It's just another way to make a quick buck, how exactly is it "sick"?

/edit I see what you mean, yes it can be sick if they inbreed, but I have a pedigree dog and he's fine.

As the article sets out I think its more of a problem in the kennel club as their stupid rules dictate how a dog should and shouldn't be, which "forces" breeders to breed dogs with their close relatives and thus creating the problems.
 
Last edited:
I don't like the fact that people are there pets for 'cross breeding' , like making hybrids I think that's just wrong but general dog breeding I don't have a problem along as it's done morally .
 
Sp00n said:
It's just another way to make a quick buck, how exactly is it "sick"?

/edit I see what you mean, yes it can be sick if they inbreed, but I have a pedigree dog and he's fine.
Click to expand...


I mean breeding them to produce certain qualities all for our own gain.

And also selling dogs and animals doesn't seem right to me. I wouldn't sell a human being so why is it ok to sell other animals who also have some degree of consciousness (albeit lower on the "consciousness spectrum).

Basically the answer seems to be..."coz we can" they cant stop us so and we gain by it so yeah its all good.
 
Animals are not human beings, they have been bought and since the beginning of civilisation. In fact, humans were bought and sold up until the late 19th century iirc as well.

Are you adverse to cattle/livestock being sold?
 
Its only wrong if its done "on the cheap" if people want a particular breed of dog then they will pay what they will.

What is sick are scumbags that run puppy farms just churning out cheap dogs for sale.
 
IMO Breeding should be regulated as there are far too many unwanted dogs in shelters as it is, I'd like to see backyard breeding heavily regulated or removed or maybe the cost of neutering your pet subsidised.

I know it's going to be hard to stop people that just want their dog to have a litter for the sake of it just cause they can't see the bigger picture.
 
Ollie133cup said:
I don't like the fact that people are there pets for 'cross breeding' , like making hybrids I think that's just wrong but general dog breeding I don't have a problem along as it's done morally .
Click to expand...

Are you referring to mongrels? If so, I think it's the best breeding practice out there. Statistical evidence proves that cross-bred dogs live longer because they are less susceptible to the interbreeding genetic diseases that many breed dogs suffer from.

Prime example, my mutt is a cross of christ only knows what. She turned 15 in November and has had a clean bill of health her whole life. We got her as a rescue pup when she was less than a year old.
 
my friend from work breeds pedigree dogs, he has litters of 5-7 and sells them for £800 a piece. he has also pretty much sold them all before they are born so for him its guaranteed money.

he only has a female tho and goes to a friend with a male and has to pay something like £200 for the 'deed' to be done.
 
If I had the space, time and money to invest in dog breeding I would. More for the love of the particular breed I want to breed than for the money.

The rescue dog I have at the minute is suspected to have been used in a puppy farm. When they found her she'd been abandoned out in the middle of nowhere and had clearly only been used until the last litter she had was gone. She'd served her purpose and was dumped.

Puppy farmers are scum. Also, selective breeding based on looks rather than health is also wrong. Destroying pups because they're not the right size, colour or shape is disgusting.
 
It's pretty messed up when people do it to extreme. The BBC took Crufts off the air because many of the "standards" for the different breeds were so extreme people were breeding dogs that were totally defective (or at least, become defective above a certain age).
 
Pedigree dog breeding is cruel, by doing so breeders actually keep deformities in the breed.

Take Rhodesian Ridgebacks, the ridge is actually a deformity.
 
Puppy farms are bad, breeders are not.
Not just anyone who owns a dog should let it have puppies and sell them for the going rate. I'm
The OP is a confusion of quite a few points though. Yes imo there are too many dogs being put up for rehoming, but the biggest thing you can do yourself is to get a dog from a shelter when you get one
 
Sp00n said:
The Kennel Club and their "rules" are half the problem.
Click to expand...

Yes, I will agree they keep some pedigree breeds "pedigree" regardless of the hereditary health problems but they also enlist breeders with good standings.

You get pedigree breeding outside of the KC with such problems so you can hardly blame the KC. Some people are just snobs that will buy a dog if the dog comes from a KC breeder or not.

At least if you're getting a dog (pedigree or not, health problems or not) from a KC breeder you know it will not have been interbred, kept in humane conditions or the mother of the litters aren't being bred until her hips are crushed to dust.

Edit:

To add to this, I work 30 hours a week at an animal rescue, we have our fair share of pedigree and mongrel dogs. We have far more health problems (as above) due to poor breeders than we do with hereditary pedigree conditions. I'd say about 2-3 dogs a year we have in that are pedigree have problems, whilst mongrels coupled with poor breeding gives us problems frequently on a monthly basis.

A standard of breeding even one of such controversy due to such "rules" is a good thing for animals to none at all. I will completely agree it needs to be improved though, 100%.
 
Last edited:
Slightly off topic but has anyone ever successfully bred a Great Dane with something tiny like a Chihuahua? I wonder what it would look like as i have a image in my head of a Giant Chihuahua.
 
Ollie133cup said:
I don't like the fact that people are there pets for 'cross breeding' , like making hybrids I think that's just wrong but general dog breeding I don't have a problem along as it's done morally .
Click to expand...

So are you against cross bred humans?:p



Nothing wrong with dog breeding so long as it's done by people who actually love dogs and aren't just in it for a profit, although there inevitably needs to be one made due to the costs involved in breeding. These "puppy farms" are a different matter though. I've seen a few over the years and they're a disgrace. Never buy a dog from them. Shame though as the dogs are still dogs no matter who bred them. Would love to see more of a control over these farms and the conditions they operate in.
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom