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Of course it matters, what a complete cop out and deflection.
Whether you like the facts or not, it was related to Russia.
Indeed, you are aware that discrediting an argument in an attempt to reframe the discussion is not a good thing right? I mean it's literally a tu quoque (an informal fallacy) used to throw a red herring (another informal fallacy) into the argument, it's something people do when they either can't, or don't want to, address what someone has raised as an issue.
It's what I'm told the so called 'liberal/left' have been doing for years with the whole you're a racist for wanting to talk about immigration.
No it doesn't, simply saying it matters doesn't make it true so are you suggesting that depending on circumstance it would be OK to shoot a police officer in the face, that there are times, or situations, when it's OK to make a false statement, because I'd love to know where in the law it says you can break the law depending on the circumstances.
Are you suggesting that making false statements if the subject is Russia is OK but not OK if it's China? That it's OK to make a false statement about a man but not a woman, that it's OK if you're trying to protect someone but not OK if that someone's last name is Trump?
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I cannot take posts comparing Trump to Hitler at all seriously, you're deranged. You're making that comparison because in your head they're at about the same level.
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It really is something wrong with the comprehension skills isn't it, i didn't compare Trump to Hitler, "people" was used as a verb and it was proceeded by "do" so that made it an auxiliary verb, in other words it was a question not a comparison, sheesh.
When you're having to have someone explain to you what "do people" means somethings wrong.
His comparison was fair. Its not like he's saying DJT has commited atrocities like Hitler, he's saying you don't ignore someone's countless bad acts because they did a few good
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Thank you, you just proved my point.
No I really didn't. Flynn's conversations with the Russian Ambassador were when he was a private citizen and undermined the US Gov. They were not directly related to Russian interference. That is an illegal act though and something he should not of been doing. That however isn't what he was in court for. He decided when asked about it to lie. At that point he has committed a federal crime and he was indicted and taken to court as he should be and anyone in his position should be. He had to be sacked not just for lying to Pence and so making Pence make a false statement but because he is compromised because of his lie. A foreign Gov knew he lied, he told his Gov and FBI he didn't say what he said so the foreign Gov can then blackmail him with that knowledge. He should never get his security clearance back or work in government again.
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And now you will not get roar87 replying to this well made point as its too hard for him to do that.
Wrt to this video, there is an unedited clip as a twitter reply which suggests Pence's comment was a joke, followed by the van doors closing. There are no subtitles though, but it does appear the previous boxes he carried did have PPE. The boxes don't seem empty as they'd bounce surely.
I'm no fan of the administration but do not like comments or clips taken out of context, like kimmel's edit appears to be.
The media op itself is another discussion.
I'm no fan of the administration but do not like comments or clips taken out of context, like kimmel's edit appears to be.
The media op itself is another discussion.
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If anyone deserves to catch it its Trump and Pence. Surely god will protect them though as Trump was sent by god and Pence is a religious nut.
Yeah he was definitely lifting something the first time round, and if it was a joke - fair enough but the benefit of the doubt is rightly not really given to the likes of Trump and Pence (especially as it took multiple attempts including his wife lying on Fox News to fess up about him not wearing a mask).
This is what it’s like arguing with you
I think the timeline of what Trump said and did would disprove everthing in red above.
It's not a well made point, I know how an analogy works, it's tedious and intellectually lazy and the comparison is deliberately conflating Trump with Hitler. Imagine taking the time to come up with an analogy that doesn't involve Hitler, you'd think people only knew 1 historical figure.
Nice one. We can still point out the lack of PPE (ironic in fact) and social distancing.
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It's difficult to find anyone in history who was as monumentally stupid as Trump. I don't think there'll be anyone in the future either.
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