Don't go chasing waterfalls

Messiah Khan · 1 Jul 2007 at 21:41

What was that rubbish song all about? I'll go chasing water falls if I want! So I did;

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Messiah Khan · 1 Jul 2007 at 21:41

And as usual I couldn't help a bit of bug hunting.

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drunken fool · 1 Jul 2007 at 21:47

nice waterfall pics

could you post the Exif's? Did you use a ND filter or any others?

NorthstaNder · 1 Jul 2007 at 21:54

MK are you sure you don't live in some other exotic part of the world, other than oop north?

You seem to have an endless supply of bugs, exotic wildlife and now waterfalls!

Oh, nice photo's by the way

Messiah Khan · 1 Jul 2007 at 22:15

drunken fool said:
nice waterfall pics

could you post the Exif's? Did you use a ND filter or any others?

Exif are all embedded, but for easyness sake, here you go;

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For all the waterfall ones I used my ND10 filter.

NorthstaNder said:
MK are you sure you don't live in some other exotic part of the world, other than oop north?

You seem to have an endless supply of bugs, exotic wildlife and now waterfalls!

Oh, nice photo's by the way

Hehe, thats why the North is better than the South.

Cheers.

NorthstaNder · 1 Jul 2007 at 22:20

Can I ask how you get so close to your subjects too?

I have a super macro on my camera, so i can almost touch the subject and still focus, but I can't use the zoom when using super macro so i'll never get the detail you get. I guess that's the difference between bridge cameras and DSLR's?

I'm getting a close up filter soon, so I'm hoping that will help.

Messiah Khan · 1 Jul 2007 at 22:25

The lens I use (Sigma 150mm f2.8) is a prime lens, so I can't zoom. If I want to zoom, I have to use my feet. To get 1:1 magnification (No.6 isn't far off), the front element of the lens is about 25cm away from the subject.

NorthstaNder · 1 Jul 2007 at 22:30

so you get all that detail, despite being 25cm away from your subject? wow, that must be some lens!

so in the original i take it the fly from #6 looks quite small, but cropping it obviously gives the illusion that you were more or less touching it with the lens!

Aod · 1 Jul 2007 at 22:34

messiah khan said:
The lens I use (Sigma 150mm f2.8) is a prime lens, so I can't zoom. If I want to zoom, I have to use my feet. To get 1:1 magnification (No.6 isn't far off), the front element of the lens is about 25cm away from the subject.

whats the minimum focal distance on the Sigma 150mm?

Messiah Khan · 1 Jul 2007 at 22:34

NorthstaNder said:
so you get all that detail, despite being 25cm away from your subject? wow, that must be some lens!

so in the original i take it the fly from #6 looks quite small, but cropping it obviously gives the illusion that you were more or less touching it with the lens!

That is nearly full frame. Ive not cropped it much at all. It would be the same with any true macro lens that does 1:1 magnification. When i eventually get my Teleconverter I should be able to do 2:1 magnification.

NorthstaNder · 1 Jul 2007 at 22:37

awesome. once i get better with my camera and photography in general i'll start saving for a dslr and a decent macro lens. and a zoom lens...heck.

Messiah Khan · 1 Jul 2007 at 22:46

Aod said:
whats the minimum focal distance on the Sigma 150mm?

It claims to be 38cm, but I can focus down to about 22-25cm. Unless they measure it from one of the elements inside the lens, or even the sensor.

NorthstaNder said:
awesome. once i get better with my camera and photography in general i'll start saving for a dslr and a decent macro lens. and a zoom lens...heck.

Its an expensive game, thats for sure.

Edit; Ive changed no.4 now. Didn't like the poo brown post processing I had done on it.

funkyphantom · 1 Jul 2007 at 22:56

nice pics MK i was gonna try a long exposure shot next.

hehe, im sure it wouldnt be half as good as those tho. Did you use a filter at all?

Spuds · 1 Jul 2007 at 23:08

I love number 2 but I think the effect is slightly over done in 3 and 4, the water and the river banks don't seem to fit together.

gt_junkie · 1 Jul 2007 at 23:11

messiah khan said:
Unless they measure it from one of the elements inside the lens, or even the sensor.

Mate of mine has the 100mm canon macro lens for his 5D and wondered this. Had a measure and it turned out the distance in the case of his lens was from the sensor to the subject. So any gains are usually neutralised by the length of the lens.

His old macro lens (which he sold to me) was a the f2.8 60mm and even though it has a shorter 1:1 focus distance compared to the 100mm the actual distance the lens is from the subject is very similar due to the 100mm being a lot larger!

Nice shots by the way messiah!

gt

sean · 1 Jul 2007 at 23:19

Shot number 2 is great. The oily black water bottom right gives it a surreal CG-like feel

Aod · 1 Jul 2007 at 23:32

gt_junkie said:
Mate of mine has the 100mm canon macro lens for his 5D and wondered this. Had a measure and it turned out the distance in the case of his lens was from the sensor to the subject. So any gains are usually neutralised by the length of the lens.

His old macro lens (which he sold to me) was a the f2.8 60mm and even though it has a shorter 1:1 focus distance compared to the 100mm the actual distance the lens is from the subject is very similar due to the 100mm being a lot larger!

Nice shots by the way messiah!

gt

on my 400D there is a small mark on the frame which the manual states is the "focal plane" ie, where to start measuring focal distance from. physical lens length is irrellevant. i wonder if Nikons are the same...

messiah khan said:
Edit; Ive changed no.4 now. Didn't like the poo brown post processing I had done on it.

i had wondered about that, i thought that maybe you had done the shot in IR

ElDude · 2 Jul 2007 at 00:24

Not a great fan of number 2, and I really don't like the look of 4. I suppose it may be personal taste, but it looks like a botched attempt at multi layering a shot. I know it isn't, but that's how it seems. The water and the background look too odd to me, plus the blur on the trees due to movement spoils it even more for me.

The rest however, are quite shiny