Dragon Age II - * DLCS *
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So they had pre release DLC on both Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age last night and this time they've got some more on Dragon Age 2. Wonder if they'll go full circle and simply start developing ME3 DLC before they even start on the game.
No doubt this is only available to people who preorder like last time. They could put a cherry on top and not only make the CE **** in the UK but they could also screw around with different preorder bonus'.
This is going on my 'wait until a GotY edition is out and on sale' pile with Fallout: New Vegas. Can't say i'm overly impressed with the way it seems to have gone gameplay wise from what i've seen. Although the post release DLC was crap anyway. Return to Ostagar felt like a poor quality mod not a genuine release.
No doubt this is only available to people who preorder like last time. They could put a cherry on top and not only make the CE **** in the UK but they could also screw around with different preorder bonus'.
This is going on my 'wait until a GotY edition is out and on sale' pile with Fallout: New Vegas. Can't say i'm overly impressed with the way it seems to have gone gameplay wise from what i've seen. Although the post release DLC was crap anyway. Return to Ostagar felt like a poor quality mod not a genuine release.
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I hate day one DLCs that should be a part of the game anyway.
not even sure about pre-ordering the game, have lots to play and it doesnt look GREAT anyway.
not even sure about pre-ordering the game, have lots to play and it doesnt look GREAT anyway.
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i just hope bioware dont start asking us to buy DLC for SW:ToR even though theres a monthly subscription lol
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One day, you will go out, buy a game, install it, and when you go to play it, a message will pop up taking you to a site where you can buy the entire game content as DLC.
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Firstly its FREE so its not greed and its pretty simple, its to encourage pre-orders and more importantly, to discourage piracy, can't believe no ones mentioned it.
I haven't checked as I have a proper copy of Dragon Age, but the DLC basically makes you log into an account to play as DLC content isn't available without logging in. Its basically a way to encourage people to want an account and have some free DLC and make it easier to then buy more of the other DLC.
Its trying to make the pirated versions of the game "incomplete" from the get go.
Dragon Age Awakenings wasn't that great, its one of those storys that randomly thrusts you into game changing decisions with no warning at all and often no real clue which decision is right or wrong. While Mass effects overly obvious good/bad dialogue options is almost the reverse of too ruddy easy/obvious, Dragon Age really doesn't give you any chance with many decisions to choose the way you want your character to choose. Awakenings was FAR worse with those decisions than the normal game.
Both were cheap as anything though, the epilogue was so ridiculously basic and uninvolving it left the end of the game feeling so massively empty and unforfilling, I pray to god they fix that, jesus, the whole game is voice overs yet the epilogue they couldn't get someone to read out the various options and a few video sequences to match your choices.
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It's discouraging piracy by screwing over people who can't pre-order the game.
I won't be able to pre-order before the promotion ends, therefore when I can afford to buy the game, legitimately and fairly, I have to pay even more and for what reason? To make sure I don't pirate the game? I'm sorry so the solution to piracy is to force your customer to pay more money? Isn't that a reason piracy exists to begin with? What this is is project $10 on a new level.
p.s Project $10 - http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/2068-Project-Ten-Dollar
The difference being this isn't even coming with the retail copy of the game for people who buy new, something EA have been doing and honestly I don't mind, this is purely for a pre-orders and only pre-orders, and only before a certain date at that.
If you want to encourage pre-orders you can do it with small in game bonus's, DA:O we got some nifty helpful items, nothing game changing. This is not that, this is CONTENT, complete and finished, that they are withholding from people and then charging them extra for purely because they couldn't, or didn't want to, pre order. If you want to discourage piracy then the standard project $10 works fine, bit of content that requires a key to activate, ok it's a rather roundabout way of doing things but fair enough.
I don't mind DLC, it can really help developers and games, this however is just trying to squeeze more money out of people who are already happy to buy their game new.
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If you think anything in the games industry "discourages" piracy then you're blind as a bat. If anything the people behind it are encouraged by the challenges.
never going to happen so dont try and claim that rubbish its also not FREE where do you think the money goes from ?
same as when you buy MMO expansions... your already paying the devs wages who make the bloody expansions as part of your subscription fee.. thats the whole point in a suibscription fee your paying for server costs and ongoing game development yet you have to pay twice for an expansion
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i still havent managed to get any dlc from the ultimate edition working.
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great game
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You're a fool if you don't realise you could get pirated versions of ALL the DLC from DA:O as well as the full game. It stops nothing.
DLC once was incomplete content which didn't quite make the release schedule, so Dev's continued working on those aspects and released them later for a small fee to make up for the extra work missed by the deadline. Now look at it? Day 1 DLC? This is finished content which should have been put into the game in the first place for nothing. What happened to "Here's your game, enjoy it" Now it's: "Here's your game, by the way, if you didn't pre-order it's not quite complete, so why don't you give us some more money, and we'll give you what we cut out originally".
It's cool though, I mean their pathetic attempts at getting more money from their customers has to pull the wool over some peoples eyes, otherwise they'd never get away with it.
thing is this is to encourage you to preorder as they're probably expecting it to get ripped to shreds in the more honest after release reviews/customer reviews so they want the money before you can find anything out about the game.
I already pre ordered DAO2 because I want the game, not because of the bonus content.
I havnt got any of the DLCs for the first one, and only finished about 2/3 of it, but I did like it.
I dont like EA with their DLC / Expansion spam and other similarly lame tactics, it sucks that they publish most of the games that I want.
I havnt got any of the DLCs for the first one, and only finished about 2/3 of it, but I did like it.
I dont like EA with their DLC / Expansion spam and other similarly lame tactics, it sucks that they publish most of the games that I want.
Lol, i wouldn't be overly surprised. Dragon Age looked epic so i preordered the DDE. DA2 is looking meh so i think i'll pass.
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Whilst it does seem a bit off, the development resources (i.e. things that cost the money) for the DLC must come from somewhere so to assume because it is similar content, released at the same time that it must be part of the game split off to extort money is silly.
I suppose there are other options. They could include it in the main game then raise the retail price, who would buy it then? so they release the game, and a bolt on with seperate prices, so at the very least they will sell the main game. The fact that they *should* include it in the game because it is ready at release makes no sense. The game can function without it (i assume for my arguement), and it cost money to make, so they want a return on it. Maybe they have a seperate DLC team, in which case they could have not done the work, and there would be no DLC,and no extra cost. But i doubt they could do the work and not sell it as extra. Even if it is from a greed point of view, It is not 'part of the game' it will be a planned addition to it.
The fact it is free when you pre-order also suggests it is a way to encourage sales, not extort extra money from you.
I suppose there are other options. They could include it in the main game then raise the retail price, who would buy it then? so they release the game, and a bolt on with seperate prices, so at the very least they will sell the main game. The fact that they *should* include it in the game because it is ready at release makes no sense. The game can function without it (i assume for my arguement), and it cost money to make, so they want a return on it. Maybe they have a seperate DLC team, in which case they could have not done the work, and there would be no DLC,and no extra cost. But i doubt they could do the work and not sell it as extra. Even if it is from a greed point of view, It is not 'part of the game' it will be a planned addition to it.
The fact it is free when you pre-order also suggests it is a way to encourage sales, not extort extra money from you.
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