Draytek or Billion ?

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Been looking to upgrade from my BT Home Hub because its crap basically.
I'm down to 2 company's... Draytek or Billion.
I'm not after a wireless router.
What would you recommend please?
Been looking at the Draytek Vigor 2800.
I also use uTorrent a lot too.
Thanks in advance.
 
I've always been a fan of Draytek, at least their older models, have had my 2600 for years now and it has served me well, was £150 at the time but it never crashed, never broke and well worth it for reliability.

I am not sure how their new range of routers fair though.
 
Yup.
I was in the same situation as you before :)
Decided to get a Draytek 2800G - the G has the wireless though :)
Great buy, reliable, effecient and great support :)
I had previous experience with Drayteks before, had a 2600 and that ran with 1 year, never any overheating problems etc. But I had to change to different routers due to my router not capable of my new ADSL speeds.

Enjoy!
It would also be rather great if OcUK stocked the Drayteks...
 
Cheers Tem,
This Home hub has become terrible. I'm not bothered really as it was free and I suppose you only get what you pay for :p
Looking forward to getting it and seeing what the difference is.
Yeah it would have been good to buy from OCUK but like you said, they don't stock them :(
Thanks again :)
 
My Wireless-N upgrade is not going to happen as soon as I expected it seems so I'm after a decent Torrent friendly wireless ADSL2+ router, will the 2800 manage this ok? if so I will pick one up!
 
Do either of the Draytek or Billions allow you to manage the SNR margin?

After a router that I can tweak this, and it doesn't mention in the item description on the OcUK shop :(
 
The 2800G is wireless, and the 2800 is not wireless...

These Drayteks will handle anything mate, they will eat all day and night :)
You should suggest the Draytek products to OcUK, I think there is a section in the forum where you can, I have :)

Well, I don't think you can change your SNR margin via. the router, as the routers display your real SNR margin, the SNR margin is something to do with the cable running from your house to your exchange I think so :S
Not sure, but you can't change it via your router, as it is determined by your line etc.
 
tem07 said:
The 2800G is wireless, and the 2800 is not wireless...

These Drayteks will handle anything mate, they will eat all day and night :)
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They should do for the price of them :p
Should be worth it though I suppose :)
 
tem07 said:
Well, I don't think you can change your SNR margin via. the router, as the routers display your real SNR margin, the SNR margin is something to do with the cable running from your house to your exchange I think so :S
Not sure, but you can't change it via your router, as it is determined by your line etc.
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Some routers will actually let you set your own target SNR margin. You're right in saying that the line determines what actual SNR you get - for example if you get a 6dB SNR you can't magic up any more. However some routers handle connections at lower SNRs better than others so it helps to be able to adjust.

As an example, at my parents' house the line seems to maintain a stable sync with a Belkin router even as low as 3.5dB so being able to set the target SNR to 4 or 5dB is pretty cool.
 
So do the Billions let you set you own target SNR margin?

I need to be able to set mine, and the Netgear I have doesn't have this :(
 
Can you confirm the 2800G definitely supports a multitude of torrenting? my netgear dg834gt today fell over and did a wobbly when I tried to remote desktop into my home connection from work, the rdp client stated a fatal error that the remote computer (the router) is out of memory, I did have torrents active overnight too and I guess the RDP linkup sort of killed it. Phoned home and got it rebooted after which RDP connected just fine. I need a good router that can torrent and not fall over!
 
mrk said:
Can you confirm the 2800G definitely supports a multitude of torrenting? my netgear dg834gt today fell over and did a wobbly when I tried to remote desktop into my home connection from work, the rdp client stated a fatal error that the remote computer (the router) is out of memory, I did have torrents active overnight too and I guess the RDP linkup sort of killed it. Phoned home and got it rebooted after which RDP connected just fine. I need a good router that can torrent and not fall over!
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My 2600 is fine with 2 heavy torrent downloaders, and 2 wireless users (over airport express) surfing, streaming etc while we mess around with remote connections/server related stuff :)

So I imageinthe 2800 can only be better :)
 
VaderDSL said:
My 2600 is fine with 2 heavy torrent downloaders, and 2 wireless users (over airport express) surfing, streaming etc while we mess around with remote connections/server related stuff :)

So I imageinthe 2800 can only be better :)
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I'm still undecided between it and the Billion 7300G as it's a £100 difference!!



ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
What would you rather choose?
The Draytek that has 5*/5* reviews, and that is used by Businesses all over the world?

Or cheap routers, that aren't really used much in businesses, and aren't really heard of?
You make the decision :P
 
I've got a 2800g and overall i'm very impressed.

Pros

1.Bandwidth control and QOS work very well.
2.Very stable with bittorrent and in general when being hammered by multiple computers downloading/browsing/streaming at the same time.


Cons

1.If it drops the adsl connection, can be slow to reconnect
2.Wireless a bit flaky with Intel cards in laptops particularly with bittorrent ime, though since I switched all my wireless cards to atheros ones its been rock solid.

Draytek RMA is great as the wireless card blew on mine and I had it repaired and returned within 3 days.
 
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