Drink driving record broken...

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Not sure if this has been posted, the drink driving record was broken over xmas...he drank 15 pints of lager and then attempted to drive home.

"Marcin Ziebacz, 29, gave one of the highest breathalyser readings ever recorded in the UK – with 191 micrograms of alcohol per 100ml of his breath – when police pulled him over on December 28."

links:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2800855/Britains-worst-drink-driver.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...aces-jail-after-15-pints-of-strong-lager.html

Funny thing is, I work with this guy, i'd even call him a good mate and it's a complete shock to me, would never have expected this.

Oh yeah, before anyone else says it...;)

[bnp]they're stealing our jobs, now they're stealing our criminal records[/bnp]
 
Pathetic sentance for the previous guy IMO,Blew 188 & gets a £60 fine three year ban & a DID's program :rolleyes:

I've said for a long while now, the DD limit should be 0. This would take all the "oh I can have a couple, I'll be ok" arguement out.
 
Police stopped 764 motorists over the Christmas break with 67 drivers failing breath tests

Holy crap!

~9% over the limit
 
Robzere31 said:
Pathetic sentance for the previous guy IMO,Blew 188 & gets a £60 fine three year ban & a DID's program :rolleyes:
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What can you do though? The £60 fine was probably because he was on benefits, three year ban keeps him off our roads, and DID program hopes to reabilitate him. Putting him in jail, in this instance, wouldn't have helped as he would have still been an alcholic after he came out.

EDIT: it appears he also got a 4 month sentence suspended for 2 years?

Robzere31 said:
I've said for a long while now, the DD limit should be 0. This would take all the "oh I can have a couple, I'll be ok" arguement out.
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:confused: And how would the DD limit being 0 have helped in this instance, or most of them for that. Most people don't get caught/cause accidents when they are *just* over the limit - they do so when they are hammered and they know it.

This guy CLEARLY knew he was well over the limit, so even if the DD limit was 0, it wouldn't have mattered.
 
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What about this lady, she showed 333 micrograms per 100 millilitres of breath. :eek:

Michelle Fothergill, who police said was so drunk that she fell over when they helped her from her car, had also been sniffing butane.
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A breath test on Fothergill, 24, of Morley, West Yorkshire, showed 333 micrograms per 100 millilitres of breath against the legal maximum of 35 when she was stopped by police, Morley magistrates sitting in Leeds were told. Her solicitor, Roger Clapham, admitted she had so much alcohol in her body that "in theory she should be dead".
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Source
 
Robzere31 said:
I've said for a long while now, the DD limit should be 0. This would take all the "oh I can have a couple, I'll be ok" arguement out.
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I can see your point but its also unfair on the public, knowing when the alcohol has actually left your system can be hard to monitor, so the public could be over for long periods of time after a pint or so and not even be aware.
 
In the UK it's considered very anti-social to drink drive. Didn't used to be seen this way though .. 50 years ago it was seen as 'about as serious as speeding'. In the states it's seen as not too bad at the moment though the officials are trying to introduce a social stigma to it like ours successfully did over here.. (people HATE drink drivers .. but will drive at a ton on the motorway! It's all about social stigma you see ..)

I remember hearing an advert saying 'Using a mobile phone when driving is as dangerous as drink driving'. Unfortunately this immediately made me think 'I've used a phone LOADS of times whilst driving and it wasn't dangerous -- so perhaps drink-driving isn't as bad as everyone makes out'. Not sure the advert had the desired effect there ..


For whoever said there should be zero as the drink drive limit .. seems a bit extreme to me. Not being allowed a single glass of wine with your big meal just seems draconian. I've driven 1000 times after a single glass of wine (or beer) and a large meal -- and never caused any accidents at all .. just driven completely normally. After 1 glass of wine you are safe .. even doctors say so.

It's also very 'nanny state'. Also this means the driver can't try a single sip of his wive's wine to see what it tastes like -- because then they can not drive home! From 1 sip!
 
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Gaygle said:
What can you do though? The £60 fine was probably because he was on benefits, three year ban keeps him off our roads, and DID program hopes to reabilitate him. Putting him in jail, in this instance, wouldn't have helped as he would have still been an alcholic after he came out.

EDIT: it appears he also got a 4 month sentence suspended for 2 years?



:confused: And how would the DD limit being 0 have helped in this instance, or most of them for that. Most people don't get caught/cause accidents when they are *just* over the limit - they do so when they are hammered and they know it.

This guy CLEARLY knew he was well over the limit, so even if the DD limit was 0, it wouldn't have mattered.
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You could use the same argument for murderers, rapists etc in that case then.
No point in sending them to jail either as they are probably on the dole & if they'll still do it when relased.

Sentances are there as punishment for the crime.

As for a 4 months suspended sentance....wow :rolleyes:
 
Robzere31 said:
Pathetic sentance for the previous guy IMO,Blew 188 & gets a £60 fine three year ban & a DID's program :rolleyes:

I've said for a long while now, the DD limit should be 0. This would take all the "oh I can have a couple, I'll be ok" arguement out.
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Wow, great. What a human chap you are.

Obviously people go are noticably drunk or realise they have had to much to drink are completely irresponsible, but there has to be a line drawn at some point.

Your proposal would basically stop drinking full stop as one would never be sure if the drink was totally out of their system. So if I went to the pub with my father and we had a pint of beer with our meal (drunk over the course of an hour or so) we would be "illegal"?

Fact is most people can handle drink to a certain limit, and most noticable cases are by those that abuse alcohol.
 
Robzere31 said:
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I've said for a long while now, the DD limit should be 0. This would take all the "oh I can have a couple, I'll be ok" arguement out.
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So you'd harshly punish people who are teetotal, let alone those who don't have a high enough level to be affected.

Why?
 
Robzere31 said:
I've said for a long while now, the DD limit should be 0. This would take all the "oh I can have a couple, I'll be ok" arguement out.
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Wouldn't make a blind bit of difference, if people are going to drink drive, they will do regardless of what the limit is.
 
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