Drivers face fine and points if they use phone at drive-thru

Click bait article. If you think a copper is gonna dish out a FPN for someone using their phone to pay at a drive through...
 
cheesyboy said:
I would think this is a significant barrier to such fines. If you're not on the public highway, how can you get points?
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Generally the law still applies if it's publicly accessible. Doing donuts in a Tesco car park is the same as doing it on a normal road.
 
It is actually quicker ans safer to pay by phone. Lift phone, pay. Done in 2 seconds flat.

With cash you need to fumble with exact cash or unwrap your wallet, fumble getting valid card out then pay with PIN or contactless..

A) It's an article in The Sun
B) Stupidest thing I've ever read in my life

Not a single person will get a fine for this "crime" I would bet.
 
Longbow said:
Generally the law still applies if it's publicly accessible. Doing donuts in a Tesco car park is the same as doing on a normal road.
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True. A car park is very different to a drive thru lane though. Still think it would be a struggle.
Also would the car park not get covered under a public order offense?
 
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Dis86 said:
True. A car park is very different to a drive thru lane though. Still think it would be a struggle.
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They may be different, but it doesn't matter, a drive-thru is still road which you queue in, similar to any other road.

In the ideal world, it wouldn't apply to private property, but I think legally the article isn't wrong, even if others think it's unlikely to occur.
 
How is there even a discussion about this. Quite possibly one of the most retarded click bait articles I have ever seen. Thats like saying "If the police stop your car you could face up to life without parole". Well yes, if I have a few kilos of cocaine and the bodies of half a dozen hookers I certainly could.

This will never happen and I would bet my life on it.
 
Apple Watch FTW.

Edit: you’d have to be very unlucky or have other things going on to actually be fined. Who’s going to catch you, report you, etc.?
 
fez said:
This will never happen and I would bet my life on it.
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You bet your life on none of the thousands of police officers out there being vindictive and applying the law as it is?

During lockdown people were getting fines by police in remote areas for "not being local", even though that wasn't the law.
 
Longbow said:
You bet your life on none of the thousands of police officers out there being vindictive and applying the law as it is?

During lockdown people were getting fines by police in remote areas for "not being local", even though that wasn't the law.
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Yes i would bet my life. In the middle of a pandemic when people were told to stay in the immediate area of where they live to try and protect lives vs someone static in a car paying for their food. Fantastically similar. This is a complete non issue and no one will ever be fined for it. Ever
 
Dunks said:
Click bait article. If you think a copper is gonna dish out a FPN for someone using their phone to pay at a drive through...
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Only takes one bad copper having one bad day and standing behind the “well tekkkkkknically” you’ve broken the law and this becomes a national story.
 
Dis86 said:
It's private land so theyd struggle.
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The article says the law covers private land too

It makes sense from the perspective that the government will need to get as many cars off the road as possible in order to meet climate change commitments what better way than silly laws like these where they also make money through fines as well
 
Diddums said:
My first thought too, how will they enforce this? :confused:

I haven't read the article mind, but given it's the Sun it's probably a load of tosh anyway.
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As my old man was wont to say, “I wouldn’t even believe the date in that rag.”

hurfdurf said:
Only takes one bad copper having one bad day and standing behind the “well tekkkkkknically” you’ve broken the law and this becomes a national story.
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I know what you mean, I stopped my taxi at the lights at the corner of Lombard St. and Cornhill in London’s financial district, and my phone, laying by the auto gear shift gave an incoming text bleep.
I had an old FX4 then, no a/c and the n/s window down, a copper standing by the railing heard the bleep, and looked at me glancing down at the phone.
He wagged his finger and said, “Don’t even think about it.”
 
Minusorange said:
The article says the law covers private land too

It makes sense from the perspective that the government will need to get as many cars off the road as possible in order to meet climate change commitments what better way than silly laws like these where they also make money through fines as well
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But it doesn't get cars off the road. It just annoys drivers or changes habits.
 
Dis86 said:
True. A car park is very different to a drive thru lane though. Still think it would be a struggle.
Also would the car park not get covered under a public order offense?
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A drive through lane would almost certainly be covered for offences under the Road Traffic Act etc.

Farmers fields are covered if you've got any publicly accessible event going on, so for 364 days a year a farmer might be free to let his friends drive uninsured and untaxed vehicles on it with unlicensed drivers filming it on their mobiles, but the one day a year they hold a car boot sale at one end of the field the law would apply and most of the driving laws would have to be upheld (IIRC a farmers son was done for driving uninsured in a car a few years back because there was a car boot sale on at the far end of the field).
So I can see a very good case being made for it applying on a stretch of "private" road that people are moving through in vehicles, which is what a drive through lane is as the conditions are all being met.
 
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