Driving Theory Test Appeals

Conanius · 19 Apr 2006 at 20:00

All,

Has anyone here ever had to appeal the decision of a theory test?

if so, could you let me know the outcome of this?

Cheers

West · 19 Apr 2006 at 20:02

Why would you need to appeal?!

Computers cant be wrong, you either pass or you dont m8

Conanius · 19 Apr 2006 at 20:17

West said:
Why would you need to appeal?!

Computers cant be wrong, you either pass or you dont m8

without going into the ins and outs of it, its on hehalf of my gf who failed by 2 marks on the hazard perception because it said she cheated on what sounds like quite a complicated scene (apparently she clicked too many times)

so.. yes... computers can be wrong

SaBBz · 19 Apr 2006 at 20:25

I wouldn't think you can appeal. Tell her to book another test

WillyNelson · 19 Apr 2006 at 20:25

Then she probably did click too many times, allbeit accidentally. I seriously doubt that you'd win an appeal as it would be her word against the computer result.

I was literally 30secs late for my first theory test (back in the days of the old paper based one) because some kid stabbed another with a biro in my mum's last class of the day and she was giving me a lift there. They failed me and kept the fee and I had to take it again.

West · 19 Apr 2006 at 20:32

Wouldnt it be easier just to rebook her test? its doubtfull at best that she would get anything out of it...

Tdh1987 · 19 Apr 2006 at 20:32

I can't see you getting far with this one. You don't have any evidence!

Nazbit · 19 Apr 2006 at 21:06

You can appeal, but you have to do it through a magistrate.

Even if you win, you dont get the verdict over turned, you only get a fre retake, same applies to te practical.

Not worth the hassle at all, just book another one.

gam3r · 19 Apr 2006 at 21:45

Re-book mate, forget about it..

zain · 19 Apr 2006 at 21:48

Yer there isnt much point, besides its not been wrong with anyone else what makes you special? <<thats what theyd be like

Sputnik II · 19 Apr 2006 at 22:37

Well, tbh I'd just re-apply. You won't get anywhere by appealing. I've never done the hazard perception test because I did all the driving tests back in the days when the driving examiner just got the highway code out and asked questions but, A friend of mine who's had a HGV licence for 31 years failed the computerized hazard perception because..........He saw the hazards too soon! :rolleyes:

Conanius · 19 Apr 2006 at 22:43

Sputnik II said:
Well, tbh I'd just re-apply. You won't get anywhere by appealing. I've never done the hazard perception test because I did all the driving tests back in the days when the driving examiner just got the highway code out and asked questions but, A friend of mine who's had a HGV licence for 31 years failed the computerized hazard perception because..........He saw the hazards too soon!

thats what the guy at the test centre told her, she was being 'too careful' ... right... ill remember that one !

rG-tom · 19 Apr 2006 at 22:49

Nelson said:
Then she probably did click too many times, allbeit accidentally. I seriously doubt that you'd win an appeal as it would be her word against the computer result.

I was literally 30secs late for my first theory test (back in the days of the old paper based one) because some kid stabbed another with a biro in my mum's last class of the day and she was giving me a lift there. They failed me and kept the fee and I had to take it again.

wow

really? i was 4 hours late for my theory (power tripped in the night and reset my alarm clock) and they still let me take it, and i passed

Tom.

Sputnik II · 19 Apr 2006 at 22:52

Conanius said:
thats what the guy at the test centre told her, she was being 'too careful' ... right... ill remember that one !

Well, from what others have told me you have to virtually wait until the point of impact before you click. :eek:

I just hope that new drivers don't have such short sightedness on the road in real life.

.:MBK:. · 19 Apr 2006 at 22:59

Sputnik II said:
Well, from what others have told me you have to virtually wait until the point of impact before you click. I just hope that new drivers don't have such short sightedness on the road in real life.

nah just click at every stage of the hazard hehe, worked for me 2nd time round, 1st time i failed by 1 mark on hazard perception, was a bit miffed but whats done is done

Vertigo · 20 Apr 2006 at 07:33

The tests are deliberately set up to fail you if you click too much, to prevent people playing it safe and clicking at every possiblity, no matter how remote.

With all due respect mate, I'd tell her that she needs to accept that she failed it, deal with it and book another test. She'll get nowhere appealing IMO.

killsta · 20 Apr 2006 at 12:27

Sputnik II said:
Well, from what others have told me you have to virtually wait until the point of impact before you click. I just hope that new drivers don't have such short sightedness on the road in real life.

No you don't...the hazard perception is nowhere near as hard as people think it is.

All you have to do is click when you see something that might be a hazard (even if it isn't one yet...such as a cyclist stationary on the pavement), and then click again if that thing progresses into an actual hazard.

If you failed by clicking too much then you must have been clicking everytime something on the screen moved

I got nearly full marks on my hazard perception, it really isn't that difficult.

GlasgowTitan · 20 Apr 2006 at 12:31

You can get away with clicking over 10 times a clip (I did) so to get caught for clicking too many times you must have had a seizure or assumed every cats eye was a hazard to the tyre/road traction integrity or something. Appealing would cost money in fees and stuff and take months, not worth it, take the £30 hit on the face and book again.

Sputnik II · 20 Apr 2006 at 13:32

killsta said:
No you don't...the hazard perception is nowhere near as hard as people think it is.

I never said it was hard.

killsta said:
All you have to do is click when you see something that might be a hazard (even if it isn't one yet...such as a cyclist stationary on the pavement), and then click again if that thing progresses into an actual hazard.

I'm quite aware of the concept of the test

killsta said:
If you failed by clicking too much then you must have been clicking everytime something on the screen moved

I've never failed the test because I've never done it, Like I said in an earlier post I took all my driving tests years before the theory test was introduced. People I have asked about the hazard perception are well experienced proffessional drivers that have been applying for a PCV etc. not 17 year old learners. These people have done hundreds of thousands of miles of driving articulated lorries without accidents and they all say that the hazard perceptions ideal click time is too late. One guy had the man who was running the test explain to him that you actually have to let the hazard get closer before you click.

killsta said:
I got nearly full marks on my hazard perception, it really isn't that difficult.

If it isn't that difficult, you should have got full marks

Vertigo · 20 Apr 2006 at 14:47

Sputnik II said:
I've never failed the test because I've never done it, Like I said in an earlier post I took all my driving tests years before the theory test was introduced. People I have asked about the hazard perception are well experienced proffessional drivers that have been applying for a PCV etc. not 17 year old learners. These people have done hundreds of thousands of miles of driving articulated lorries without accidents and they all say that the hazard perceptions ideal click time is too late. One guy had the man who was running the test explain to him that you actually have to let the hazard get closer before you click.

I can well believe this and personally I think it just re-inforces the view that driving is learned more than it is taught. There's no substitute for experience and someone who has been driving for years will have far better awareness and earlier perception of hazards than will a new driver, no matter how many lessons they've had.

I think the test is obviously adjusted to allow for this and thus anticipates the click coming a "little late" if you will.