Driving without no MOT

DJMK4 · 4 Aug 2006 at 12:55

Before you blast me this is for a mate not me, he was pulled over last night cos he was spotted coming out of the pub in the car (He was breathlised and passed) he had one pint.

They asked him to produce his documents at the station within 7 days, only problem is because he is skint, his MOT is overdue by about a week (his car needs a new windscreen and new tyres) but the poor sod is skint, he was going to get it done this weekend.

If he gets his MOT done this weekend and shows the police next week, whats the chances they will cotton on that he has been without for a week, and whats the chances of a conviction

tom_e · 4 Aug 2006 at 12:58

i think it has been mentioned before on here that a few people have got away with things like this as they dont always check the dates suppose its just down to luck

The_TailGunner · 4 Aug 2006 at 13:00

do you need mot details for a producer?

thought you only needed licence, v5, insurance and tax

you cant get tax without insurance and mot anyway...

zetec452 · 4 Aug 2006 at 13:02

You do have a certain about of time past an MOT due date to sort it. I would have thought 7 days would be near the limit, especially if the car needed some work.

I know I've left my car tax by 7 days without a problem.

It would be better for him to get it done and realise that if he can’t afford to run a car legally then not to.

Borris · 4 Aug 2006 at 13:02

[Sniper][Wolf] said:
If he gets his MOT done this weekend and shows the police next week, whats the chances they will cotton on that he has been without for a week, and whats the chances of a conviction

That depends entirely on old bill.

Claiming skintness us unlikely to be useful in his defense. After all, he could have simply not driven the car.

If the car were roadworthy, he might have a reasonable case for not having his MOT.

The_KiD · 4 Aug 2006 at 13:03

Not sure if he needs to produce MOT.

If he does and as you say it is only a week out of date then he should get the work done and then be honest with them, tell them he couldnt afford the MOT and he was getting it done that weekend, then show it has been done.

They are not complete ******* and they will give him some lee-way(sp?).

Samtheman1k · 4 Aug 2006 at 13:11

Why couldn't afford to get the MOT but could afford to go to the pub?

DJMK4 · 4 Aug 2006 at 13:13

Ta iv forwarded the relevant info onto him, i think what he is going to do is get him MOT tomorrow take all docuements down the station bar MOT certificate, then if they ask for MOT he will simply say "I think the Tax covers the MOT because you need the MOT to get tax, ill have to bring it down the station later"

If they dont ask for it, they dont ask

DJMK4 · 4 Aug 2006 at 13:13

Samtheman1k said:
Why couldn't afford to get the MOT but could afford to go to the pub?

Because i bought him the one drink he had, and tbh how is £1.99 the same as paying for the MOT (£35) + New tyres + New windscreen + what ever else they might find wrong with it.

zetec452 · 4 Aug 2006 at 13:16

[Sniper][Wolf] said:
"I think the Tax covers the MOT because you need the MOT to get tax, ill have to bring it down the station later"

That really wouldn't work. To me that's just ignorant and won't to him any favours.

Borris · 4 Aug 2006 at 13:18

In all likliehood, they will just require his license.

If the car has a valid tax disc, they will be extremely unlikely to require an MOT certificate, unless, at the time of the stop, they deemed the car not roadworthy.

Borris · 4 Aug 2006 at 13:20

[Sniper][Wolf] said:
Because i bought him the one drink he had, and tbh how is £1.99 the same as paying for the MOT (£35) + New tyres + New windscreen + what ever else they might find wrong with it.

The MOT is not just an excuse for garages to find faults and imcrease revenue, but to determine the road worthiness of a car.

If the car had bald tires and crappy windscreen, it should not have been on the road - Your friend's financial situation has no bearing on the matter at all.

Samtheman1k · 4 Aug 2006 at 13:22

Borris said:
If the car had bald tires and crappy windscreen, it should not have been on the road - Your friend's financial situation has no bearing on the matter at all.

Indeed. I hope your friend learns a lesson from this.

Don't forget that no MOT means that his insurance isn't valid.

DJMK4 · 4 Aug 2006 at 13:24

Borris said:
The MOT is not just an excuse for garages to find faults and imcrease revenue, but to determine the road worthiness of a car.

If the car had bald tires and crappy windscreen, it should not have been on the road - Your friend's financial situation has no bearing on the matter at all.

What the hell are you going on about? i was arguing about that point,

If you read the thread, someone said "So he can afford to go down the pub but he cant afford an MOT"

I was simply stating a valid fact that you cant compare the price you may pay for an MOT to a pint down the pub. Especially a pint which i bought!

You cant say "He can afford a pint, which means he can afford to put his car through an MOT!"

How does that work out?

Efour · 4 Aug 2006 at 13:28

Its pretty irresponsible.

If hes lucky he will get away with it, but if he dosn't lesson learned.

wolvotim · 4 Aug 2006 at 13:29

he took the risk and paid the price. fare do's i say.

Borris · 4 Aug 2006 at 13:30

[Sniper][Wolf] said:
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There is no comparison between a pint and an MOT, true. I don't believe that I suggested otherwise.

However, before you pointed out that you purchased the pint, the assumption was that your friend was buying beer, when they could have been saving the money necessary to put their car in a roadworthy state.

You also appear to be implying that there is nothing wrong with driving the unroadworthy car, because your friend has financial issues.

Sometimes you need to read posts in an overall context.

DJMK4 · 4 Aug 2006 at 13:31

Efour2 said:
Its pretty irresponsible.

If hes lucky he will get away with it, but if he dosn't lesson learned.

im sure he is not the only person in the world who has done it, i bet loads of people on this forum have done it at some point.

Its a week, its not as if he has no insurance, no licence. He has big financial situations at the moment and not driving the car isnt an option as how would he get to work?

Sequoia · 4 Aug 2006 at 13:31

Driving without a valid MOT can certainly result in prosecution, but it's quite possible that if he produces an MOT dated after the stop, he'll be let off with a caution. That isn't an entirely clean slate, though, because it won't help him if he gets caught again.

To be more honest, personally, I'd be MUCH more concerned about him driving around in a car he knows has illegal tyres. He's probably lucky they weren't checked and he was reported for that, because EACH defective tyre could cost him a fine and points.

It strikes me that even if he does get done for no MOT, he's got off lightly.

DJMK4 · 4 Aug 2006 at 13:31

Borris said:
There is no comparison between a pint and an MOT, true. I don't believe that I suggested otherwise.

However, before you pointed out that you purchased the pint, the assumption was that your friend was buying beer, when they could have been saving the money necessary to put their car in a roadworthy state.

You also appear to be implying that there is nothing wrong with driving the unroadworthy car, because your friend has financial issues.

Sometimes you need to read posts in an overall context.

I bought him a pint because he was skint, and read my previous post

Driving without no MOT

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