DRS the new Marmite thread.

[dannyjo22]

Ok race in race out we have the same DRS arguments, how about a detached thread so we can scream abuse at these push to pass monkeys or scream in excitement at the entertainment.

Maybe also a poll mods on whether you think it's too artificial or adds entertainment?

Personally I flip flop, I'm not sure either way. Part of me thinks with the tyres we wouldn't have needed it this year, plus when they get it wrong it's hilariously easy.

Abother part of me thinks they have just given the tow that used to exist when cars weren't so badly affected by the air. Also a slower car is not getting past a faster car and staying there. I also have enjoyed the excitement at times this year which should be the bottom line but I think that's down to who was winning. Had it been Vettel using DRS to win from the back I feel more people would be moaning about DRS had he beaten Button or Hamilton.

So how about we use this thread to discuss the various merits of DRS, a stage too far or just what F1 needed with the short attention span everyone seems to have these days

 

[dannyjo22]

im just waiting for the race when 2 drivers are fairly clear of the field with like 10 laps to go and the driver in second place just follow the leader until the last lap..

That scenario will never happen, if the car behind has been faster than the driver infront to keep with him or catch him then once he's in clear air he would pull away enough over a lap not to worry about drs. I don't think so far there has been any evidence of a slower car in normal running getting past a faster one. From what I've seen they get passed and stay past.

It would be far too risky to wait until the last lap.

 

[dannyjo22]

this is what i meant.. just because your the faster car doesnt mean you will pull away either you can use the DRS to improve laptime and keep up if the guy is only a few tenths faster and likely still be within enough to get a pass from the DRS if its a silly long zone like canada

Surely in the scenario you talk about happening, Canada was the best DRS zone to stop it happening, you get passed in the first zone and extend the lead in the 2nd.

Canada was the best DRS zone yet for making sure after a DRS pass the car couldn't come back at you?

 

[dannyjo22]

so you dont want racing? just the faster car to be allowed to get infront? wasnt this why refueling was banned? so cars had to race each other and not just go time attack on whatever fuel stratergy they wanted?

No you said you didn't want a scenario where you could wait and pass on the last lap because if you passed earlier someone could DRS you right back. You said Canada shouldn't have such large DRS zones.

Where in fact Canada had the best DRS to prevent the very thing you are worried about. You could pass in the first DRS zone and pull out a gap in the 2nd so the car behind couldn't DRS you back.

Now you're saying I just want the faster car infront, I said nothing of the sort. One minute you are saying people will wait so they don't get repassed and then when I said canada stops that you say great so the faster car gets passed and the slower car can't come back at them?

What exactly do you want?

Cars to repass each other or not? If not then Canada had a great DRS zone.

 

[dannyjo22]

I read somewhere on F1 technical I think it was that they have been struggling to safely get more energy into the kers and certainly struggling to get more power without running a system that could end up hurting someone.

I think it's fairly dangerous to be pushing the limits of Kers in the F1 environment.

 

[dannyjo22]

Hmmm engine mapping in comparison is lethal!

I think the issue with engine mapping is they don't want to find themselves in a ferrari 2002 scenario when there is a lot of complicated stuff going on they don't understand any longer.

I thought the mapping rules in the first place would be a lot more restrictive than they seem to be. I wonder what other tricks have been done with the mapping