Duke's guide to watching F1 2012 on the cheap

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Hi all,

Now a bit of time has passed since the whole F1 2012 BBC/Sky coverage news broke, I've looked into the options.


Sky Sports F1 Channel

Sky will have their own F1 channel, available for Sky and Virgin Media customers. If you have Sky HD then you get it free on satellite with them, if you're on VM then you need to buy the Sky Sports package to get the channel.



RTL Channel on Satellite

For those that don't want Sky/VM, one option I've found is to watch the German RTL channel with the BBC Radio 5 Live Sports Extra commentary alongside. RTL is free to air and covers both the qualifying and race in full. It is only free for the SD feed and I think it is £100 a year to watch it in HD. To pick up this channel, you need a satellite dish pointed at 'Astra 19.2E'. I gather you should be able to re-align an existing Sky dish to this sat (although some parts of the UK may need a larger dish), assuming you don't use it for normal Freesat channels, or you can purchase a second dish for it. Even with a different receiver box included, the whole install can be done well within a £100 one off cost. The problem when I tried it was the sync of Radio 5 Live being out by a few seconds and also the commentary team on 5 Live isn't as good as before.

RTL tech info - http://www.satmania.com/eng/satchannels/rtl_television.html
Dishpointer - http://fr.dishpointer.com/
List of channels on Astra 19.2E - http://www.satmania.com/eng/satchannels/19_2e/astra_1h/

It is possible in some cases to add a second LNB (the receiver on the dish) to an existing dish, but not tried it myself. The second dish was so cheap I just went for that option. You can also get motorised dishes (or make an existing dish motorised), so with a compatible sat box, it will move the dish to the correct sat when you change channel. Very cool but does cost. A motor was £80 odd from a certain electrical part store.

Someone mentioned on here in the other thread about a Polish channel which shows the F1 as well, which is on a different sat, so might be another option on there (could be HD as well?). I believe this is on a sat which is much closer to the normal Freesat one, so it is much easier to hook up a second LNB to the dish to get this.



Watching Online

If you know someone with Sky, you can use Sky Go to watch via steam on your computer (ideally connected to a TV). There is no extra cost for this to the subscriber.

There are some other steams available. Sldsmkd is compiling a list of them:
RTL Germany - http://www.rtl.de/formel1/livestream/index
RAI TV Italy - http://www.rai.tv/dl/RaiTV/diretta.html
Esport3 Spain - http://www.esport3.cat/f1/html/directes/



Watching on BBC

Of course you can watch with the BBC still, however only some races are covered live. You will have to wait for the rerun later that day for the non-live ones.
 
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I can't install satellite dishes so have been looking at alternatives, a lot of the stations do stream the content onto the Internet, but they are region locked. You can get paid for VPN's which cost around £7 a month - so I will be testing these out soon, in the meantime i'm compiling a list of livestreams.

RTL Germany - http://www.rtl.de/formel1/livestream/index
RAI TV Italy - http://www.rai.tv/dl/RaiTV/diretta.html
Esport3 Spain - http://www.esport3.cat/f1/html/directes/

Thanks for posting. Any idea of the quality? The streams I've seen before have been a postage stamp size. If they did a decent SD or even HD stream, it would be a very good option.
 
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Second dish isn't an option for our house. The existing dish for sky had to be installed on the chimney to get line of sight over a set of trees behind our house. The trees aren't in our property so they can't go. I think my only option is to try and watch at friends/pubs

Can you not just extend the pole and put the second dish on top? Or would it be a bit too high / look terrible?
 
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Thanks for the input guys, I'll update the thread when I have a bit more time.

That sound delayer would be good if it supported DAB which the 5 Live commentary is on (Sports Extra). It says digital FM/AM which I'm not convinced is actually DAB.
 
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I added a load more channels from the 28.3E Sat yesterday, something like 450 channels on there but so far I think only RTL is the one showing sport unencrypted. Going to look into the channels available on the Polish one to see if its worth tweaking the dish that way.
 
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Just reserved my dish and receiver from B&Q.

One of the reviews was this

"Bought this as many have to get RTL for Formula One for next year.
It had every thing I wanted to do the job. A tip when scanning Astra 1c (19.2) is to remove transponders 47 & 67 when scanning, if you don't the box will lock up.
The dish is a tad ugly, but wasn't worried as I didn't need it I just mounted the supplied LNB along side my existing Sky LNB. Even without the dish, its still excellent value."

Can't wait to get this working!
Yeah the dish is just metal grey so sprayed mine matt black and looks much better (well, less obvious anyway :)).
 
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This may be a stupid question but here goes, if I got a Freesat Humax box could I use this to pick up RTL or Polsat etc? Maybe I could get one and use a motorised dish?

Yep will work fine when the dish is aligned. The only problem with "UK Freesat" boxes is that it will always be wanting to look for the old satellite, so I found with the Bush receiver that you HAD to connect the old feed in first to get past the set up screen, then I could add channels in manually. A more generic sat receiver will be easier as it will just scan for anything on the satellite you're aiming at. So in short, it will work but may take a little longer to set up.
 
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Surely getting a live feed over the internetz is much less hassle than buying and installing a new dish?

Depends really. If you can find a decent feed then yeah, however a lot are very poor quality.. also assuming you have a decent TV near to hook up to.

I think we'll find out when the season starts what the best options turn out to be. Just trying to get the info in one thread :)
 
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Right, gave it a go. The quality isn't great but was kinda what I was expecting. It should be watchable but a shame they don't do a HD stream (even just 720p) yet.

That looks like my F1 viewing decision made for this year :)



Cleaned the opening post to be more general now about the options. Let me know if I've missed anything.
 
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Do you have any idea how SkyGo works? Is there a limit to the number of PCs:
  • accessing SkyGo simultaneously?
  • on which it can be viewed at any time (i.e. not simultaneously)?

Not sure, there is a limit of 2 devices per account (although it seems you are able to create additional profiles within your account to increase it) but not heard of a limit on concurrent connections. How come?

Probably on here in the small print - http://www.sky.com/helpcentre/tv/sky-go
 
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Looked into some other options for receiving Sky Go and it looks like this device will have it soon - http://www.roku.com - not bad for £49. The 360 I have is one of the early models and is noisy/hot so would be nice to replace it with that as I don't use it for anything else.
 
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