Dur Question i guess ?

up2nogooduk · 21 May 2009 at 12:24

The new single PCB 295 coming out, it says it has 2 GPU's.
But i thought the old 295 had that.. what's pcb mean lol ? confussed.
do you know when the card is out ?
Cheers..

dmxdex2020 · 21 May 2009 at 12:36

PCB is the graphics card board, basically the geforce gtx 295 has 2 PCB boards sandwitched together, nvidia have designed the new geforce gtx 295 to use one PCB less heat and cheaper to make.

cmndr_andi · 21 May 2009 at 12:37

The old (current) one has two PCB (printed circuit boards) sandwiched together, with a chip on each board. It is just having like two gtx 275s(underclocked) stuck together facing each other so they only take up a double slot and share the cooler plus are sli'd on the board.

The new single pcb is just one board with all the components on it - however it is now able to use a better and larger cooler which can be less noisy nd dissipate more heat (keep the chips cooler). Also, it means it will be easier to add specially designed after market coolers that before.

Fenris · 21 May 2009 at 12:37

up2nogooduk said:
The new single PCB 295 coming out, it says it has 2 GPU's.
But i thought the old 295 had that.. what's pcb mean lol ? confussed.
do you know when the card is out ?
Cheers..

PCB is Printed Circuit Board.

Basicaly the 295 now is to all intensive purposes 2 GTX275's stuck on top of each other, so it has 2 PCB's.

What it WILL be is more like the ATI 4870x2 which is two 4870's on the same PCB.

Sasahara · 21 May 2009 at 12:38

PCB is a Printed circuit board

The first GTX 295 was 2 seperate cards effectively stuck together, so had 2 PCBs.

The new one is all the chips of the 2 cards put on 1 PCB.

Same performance, but the single PCB one may have slightly better cooling and probably a tat bit cheaper to make.

Fenris · 21 May 2009 at 12:39

It simpressive how 4 people can say exactly the same thing in four completely differant ways isn't it.

dmxdex2020 · 21 May 2009 at 12:40

It is 2 260's not 275's.

dmxdex2020 · 21 May 2009 at 12:40

Fenris said:
It simpressive how 4 people can say exactly the same thing in four completely differant ways isn't it.

I know i said it first very bluntly haha.

PaulyD · 21 May 2009 at 12:41

Fenris said:
It simpressive how 4 people can say exactly the same thing in four completely differant ways isn't it.

4 different people saying pretty much exactly the same thing is rather impressive

Fenris · 21 May 2009 at 12:43

dmxdex2020 said:
It is 2 260's not 275's.

Pretty sure it's 275's, hence why the 295 and SLI 275's are so close together.

cmndr_andi · 21 May 2009 at 12:46

dmxdex2020 said:
It is 2 260's not 275's.

Its 2 gtx270s because it has the full 240 stream processors on each chip (unlike the 216 on a 260). However it is underclocked compared to a stock gtx 275 to stay within the TDP (Thermal Design Power).

dmxdex2020 · 21 May 2009 at 12:49

Every were i read people said its 2 260's well the older geforce gtx 295's.

cmndr_andi · 21 May 2009 at 12:57

dmxdex2020 said:
Every were i read people said its 2 260's well the older geforce gtx 295's.

Maybe in terms of performance, in most benchmarks SLI gtx 260 (216 core) is pretty much on par with a gtx 295. However, the gtx 295 (all versions) have 240 stream processors per core. But due to the gtx 260's core being clocked quite a bit higher it makes sense why they would have the same performance when SLI'd.

up2nogooduk · 21 May 2009 at 13:01

Need to get this right lol
So the new 295, will have 2 x GPU's, but on 1 PCB ?
I had to RMA my 295, because it stoped working. but i had few issus with that card in some games, but when i tried my 275 card, it run a lot better.
so from what i read, the dual GPU PCB 295 card, had some perfomance issues over the single GPU setup in some games.
now i'm wondering if EVGA will send me the single PCB 295. if so, i hope it works better the the old 295 worked (for me anyway)

cmndr_andi · 21 May 2009 at 13:06

Yes, you have it right. As the new card is coming out in a week you may well be lucky and get a single PCB, just depends on how nice EVGA are feeling. Other that better cooling, I don't think the change will affect the performance of the card much. If you problems were due to bad cooling or a fault on the card - then I guess the new card should make for better gaming. If it was something inherent with the gtx 295 series, It will likely still be there.

up2nogooduk · 21 May 2009 at 13:36

cmndr_andi said:
Yes, you have it right. As the new card is coming out in a week you may well be lucky and get a single PCB, just depends on how nice EVGA are feeling. Other that better cooling, I don't think the change will affect the performance of the card much. If you problems were due to bad cooling or a fault on the card - then I guess the new card should make for better gaming. If it was something inherent with the gtx 295 series, It will likely still be there.

So if this is going to be the same price etc, then i guess it's only them saving money making this change. hmmm

cmndr_andi · 21 May 2009 at 13:37

So if this is going to be the same price etc, then i guess it's only them saving money making this change. hmmm

Gotta love capitalism.

dmxdex2020 · 21 May 2009 at 13:46

I heard the new 295 has dual fan cooling?

cmndr_andi · 21 May 2009 at 14:12

Just the one fan it seems- http://www.techpowerup.com/94054/First_Single-PCB_GeForce_GTX_295_Accelerator_Spotted.html

That said - those pictures only show the reference cooler. Other board makes may decide to make their own better cooling solutions which have dual fans. However, expect that to cost more than the standard card.