E2180 vs E2200

[no_1_dave]

Which should I get?
I already have DDR2 6400 and will be clocking this on the Gigabyte DS3R.
Will be using a Freezer 7 Pro so wont be using stock cooler.

Which is best, 10x multi or 11x?
I'd like to run my ram at 1:1 if thats the most efficient, what would I need for this? I'm a noob at this

 

[Tooks]

It won't really matter to be honest.

Both processors will probably max out long before your motherboard or memory will. For 3.2 Ghz, you'll only be looking at 320FSB for the E2180 and 290FSB for the E2200, so your RAM even at 1:1 won't be breaking into a sweat. In fact, you'll probably need to apply a multiplier to get your RAM running at near its 800mhz, which will be faster than 1:1 (640Mhz or 580Mhz respectively using the examples above).

Just get the cheapest!

 

[Darryl_1983]

I brought the E2200 just for the extra flexibility it offers. Makes overclocking the ram easier on the P35 boards where the ram multis are limited. currently running at 300 fsb x 11 to give 3.3Ghz (temps wise would go further, but running at 1.5875 volts). With memory overclocked to 1000Mhz using 3.33x Ram multi (2x being the same as 1:1)

 

[jwilliams]

1.5875 is that set in BIOS? What does CPU-Z report?

How high are your temps on that?

I have only got my E2160 to 3GHz at 1.3v in BIOS at the mo, don't want to fry the chip what is the max these should go to?

 

[Sean_UK]

I brought the E2200 just for the extra flexibility it offers. Makes overclocking the ram easier on the P35 boards where the ram multis are limited.

Same reason im using them in budget builds on P31 or P35 boards, with an average 3.0 to 3.3GHz over clock.

 

[no_1_dave]

I brought the E2200 just for the extra flexibility it offers. Makes overclocking the ram easier on the P35 boards where the ram multis are limited.

Would this be advisable with 6400 ram or should I be ok with the E2180? I dont mind which I get, I just want it to clock well

 

[Sean_UK]

Tiny bit more head room when using E2200 with 6400 ram, for the sake of £4 i'd suggest E2200 every time, on current prices.

 

[Darryl_1983]

1.5875 is that set in BIOS? What does CPU-Z report?

How high are your temps on that?

I have only got my E2160 to 3GHz at 1.3v in BIOS at the mo, don't want to fry the chip what is the max these should go to?

Yeah that is set in the bios, i've had it upto 1.6 in the bio to try and get 3.4Ghz but failed stress test. Drops to low 1.5's, droop is pretty bad on my board.

Temps wise after lapping cpu and tuniq cooler, are in the low 60's on max load.

 

[Columbo]

Yup E2200 based on prices. The 11x multi gives even more flexibilty than the 10x on the E2180.

Had my E2200 stable at 3.6ghz, and actually managed 1 run of 3dmark06 at 3.8 (1.55v)

 

[Tooks]

Yup E2200 based on prices. The 11x multi gives even more flexibilty than the 10x on the E2180.

Had my E2200 stable at 3.6ghz, and actually managed 1 run of 3dmark06 at 3.8 (1.55v)

I wouldn't say the E2200 higher multi gives you more flexibility with budget boards than any other E2XXX chip (with the possible exception of the E2140 due its 8x multi which can be a bit low for 3Ghz+ clocks).

A budget board with limited memory multiplier options is still limited, no matter what the CPU. You just get a different set of limitations!

But anyway, it's a small point, and with the price of the E2180/E2200 so close, it doesn't really matter which you get in my opinion.

(Nice clock by the way ManCuBus! )

Would this be advisable with 6400 ram or should I be ok with the E2180? I dont mind which I get, I just want it to clock well

Your 800mhz PC6400 RAM is good for a FSB of 400, which is way more capable than any E2XXX CPU, most of which will top out around 330, and that would be a good one. I've owned 6 of these E2XXX CPU's now, and none of them have OC'd past 3.4Ghz stably. I did get an E2140 (which I still have) which super PI's/benches at 3.8Ghz, but I think that's exceptional.

All of them should do 3Ghz though, so I wouldn't worry too much.