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E5200 or E7200 + PCIe Question

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Hi everyone

first time poster so please be gentle.

just thought id ask a newbie question

im thinking of a budget build to get me thro until the nehalem prices drop, in say in a year or so.

i was thinking of an E5200 or E7200 coupled with an ASUS P35 P5Kse motherboard with PCI e v1 (£61.09), or a P45 P5Q board at (£88.11) with PCIe v2.

I would like to purchase in a couple of months a 4870 as well.

My questions are - is it better to go for the PCI e 2.0 board to couple with the 4870 (a PCI e 2 card), or would the performance increase between the PCIe v1 and v2 be negligable.

Also, would the E5200 be a bottleneck in a system with a 4870 or would it be ok (i would like to overclock whichever CPU i purchase to hopefully 3ghz + with something like an arctic freezer pro cooler). I could even push to an E8200/ 8400. I am aware of the quad cores, and without wanting to start another long dual v quad debate, i have read that the Q6600 is being phased out, and i cannot find any information yet about the new 45 nm Q8200, but at £150ish it doesnt seem very good value compared to the Q6600.
So the dual core route to my mind is the better value at present

At present i run a 640 meg 8800gts and an athlon 64 x2 4600 - would i notice a big difference between the old and the new system in the likes of Crysis, clear sky etc.

Any input would be gratefully received

ian
 
4870 in a P35 board will perform fine.
E5200 will clock great, best bang for buck cpu out at the mo.
It will not bottleneck the 4870.
You will see a ridiculous boost over your current system.

I went from a 3800+ X2 (939) @ 2.7Ghz with 1GB DDR, to a E2160 @ 3Ghz with 2GB DDR2, and the difference was astounding.

I also went from a 8800GT 512 to a 4850 and so a noticeable improvement, so a GTS 640 to a 4870 will be massive.
 
I don't think you should really worry about PCIe v1 or v2.

Go for it, overclock that baby to 3Ghz or more and you will be a happy bunny ;)
 
hi

wow thanks for the quick responses - im off down to overclockers NOW - im dead lucky - i only live 20 mins from the shop

great replies - in essence then i only need to spend £60 for processor, £60 for motherboard and £170 for gfx card. Gosh - i might even buy the GF some flowers with the change - then again crysis warhead is out soon.

many thanks for the answers guys - you are all my computer gurus now

cheers

ian
 
I went from a 3800+ X2 (939) @ 2.7Ghz with 1GB DDR, to a E2160 @ 3Ghz with 2GB DDR2, and the difference was astounding.

When I went from my Opteron (939) running at 2.6 with 2GB RAM to my system in my sig (not the 4870 though) I really didn't notice enough of a difference to have any 'wow' factor..! It was quicker but not by much.
 
hi

wow thanks for the quick responses - im off down to overclockers NOW - im dead lucky - i only live 20 mins from the shop

great replies - in essence then i only need to spend £60 for processor, £60 for motherboard and £170 for gfx card. Gosh - i might even buy the GF some flowers with the change

Hehe, probably a good thing I don't live close to OcUK :D

Good idea with the budget and with the flowers ;)
 
hi

well im just up and runninig with my e5200 in a asus p5k - £120 from OCUK - bargain.

Chip is upto 3.125 ghz (250 * 12.5) and is rock solid so far - might try and get to 3.4 gig later (275 * 12.5)

im well happy with this, cant wait to get a 4870 gfx card next pay day

thanks for the replies everyone

ian
 
When I went from my Opteron (939) running at 2.6 with 2GB RAM to my system in my sig (not the 4870 though) I really didn't notice enough of a difference to have any 'wow' factor..! It was quicker but not by much.

well you didnt really shell out to much on the upgrade did you.... you pay for what you get and those pentiums have so little cache.
 
true i havent spent much, but as i said in my original post, if this keeps me going for another year until nehalems (hopefully) come down in price then i will be very happy.

Do you not think that the law of diminishing returns sometimes sets in with these things - is a Q8200 three times better than an E5200, even though it is threee times as expensive ?

just installing Ghost REcon Advanced Warfighter at present

cheers

ian
 
hi

upto 3.45 gig stable (275 * 12.5) at 1.38 v

im happy at this. Been playing GRAW at 1920 * 1080 with all antialiasing etc on maximum and also v sync enabled, and runs totally smooth - im well happy

cant wait to try crysis warhead

cheers

ian
 
hi

upto 3.45 gig stable (275 * 12.5) at 1.38 v

im happy at this. Been playing GRAW at 1920 * 1080 with all antialiasing etc on maximum and also v sync enabled, and runs totally smooth - im well happy

cant wait to try crysis warhead

cheers

ian

Nice overclock Ian,i've the e5200 aswell fantastic value for money cpu
 
When I went from my Opteron (939) running at 2.6 with 2GB RAM to my system in my sig (not the 4870 though) I really didn't notice enough of a difference to have any 'wow' factor..! It was quicker but not by much.

I do a fair bit of audio and video encoding.

Resizing videos for my phone took a 3rd of the time, and processing large audio files became a much quicker task.
 
hi

upto 3.45 gig stable (275 * 12.5) at 1.38 v

im happy at this. Been playing GRAW at 1920 * 1080 with all antialiasing etc on maximum and also v sync enabled, and runs totally smooth - im well happy

cant wait to try crysis warhead

cheers

ian

What temps are you getting and with what kind of cooling?

Got my E5200 yesterday and it's running at 3GHZ with default volts but it's 44c on each core idle and around 60c full load with the default Intel cooler, so I was thinking of leaving it at that until I get something better.
 
Hi

mid 30s at 3.45 ghz using a freezer 7 pro at boot - i didnt even bother with the stock cooler provided.

I havent checked any temps on load at present

cheers

ian
 
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