e6300 + gigabyte ds4 + max multiplier :(

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Just build a new system for my bro:

Conroe e6300
GeiL 2gig pc5300 667mhz
Gigabyte Ds4
Artic cooling freezer 7 pro

I have just been into the Bios and selected the T.I.M section, then gone on the multiplier which i was hoping to change to 10 so i got 2.6, but it says "min 6 and max7" and its already on 7 as standard. What am i missing out/doing wrong?

ta.
 
so how am i going to overclock? i thought that was what you did (increase the multiplier)
 
just tested it at stock and my idle temps are around 50 and when i run orthos blend test for 10minutes my cpu temp is 60-62 in coretemp. Im not sure of what the average temperatures are, and what kind of temps i should try to avoid once i start playing with the bios.
 
ok i have increased the fsb to 333mhz, and decreased the ram divider to the lowest it goes which is 2, this shows the ram as 667, which is the stock speed? I have also tested it for 15mins on the cpu stress on orthos, and its passes the 9tests, the idle temp is 56 and the loaded temp goes between 64-66. As opposed to standard stock idle of 50 and a loaded of 60. So im guessing this small temp increase is ok? Plus if i increase the fsb any more than 333mhz the ram is going to go above the 667 mark. Does this mean i have reached the limit of o/c'in this conroe e6300?? its currently at 2.3ghz from 1.86ghz.
 
You can loosen the ram timings to 5-5-5-15, raise the vdimm to +3 and push the fsb up towards 370mhz. 400mhz might be possible but I don't know how well that pc5300 can clock. The board and cpu should be able to do 400x7 fine.

But you'll be needing to sort out your cooling first. Those temps are very high.
 
ok I have just taken off the cpu cooler, checked it was seated correctly on the cpu (Which it was) and replaced it. One thing I did notice is that when i turn on the pc, the cpu fan does not start up for like a minute then it kicks in. Is this normal? i take it that it waits for some heat before turning on? Also i tried plugging the heatsink into the system fan slot on the mobo instead of the cpu fan slot, it then rips into life straight away and is spinning really quickly, the only prob is, is that it will be too loud if i left it linked to the system fan slot on the mobo permentally.

I am begginging to wonder if I have the heatsink the right way round... at current the heatsink fan is facing the back of the case as it tellls you to do, but i have just checked with the case manual (Thermaltake Soprano) and the rear fan which faces the cpu cooler fan is the exhaust and the intake fan is in fact at the front of the case. So should/can you turn the heatsink round, so its intake fan faces the same sort of direction/location as the case intake fan? or leave it right by the exhaust fan at the rear of the case.

Help much appreciated.

Cheers.

EDIT: Ive just read the heatsink instructions again and it is right that the heatsink fan faces the case exhaust fan. But at the bottom of the instructions it also says that "All of our socket 775 coolers come with a PWM controller chip in the motor (4pin connector) according to intels specification. This alows the bios to control the fan precisely. In case the fan speed is not regualted according to the cpu load respectively temperature, enter the bios. Most socket 775 mainboards offer a CPU target temperature. Set it to 65oc, which means that the bios tries to keep the cpu around 65oc and thus lowers the fan speed as much as possible" So my cpu reading around 65 on full load with orthos would be correct if this is the case?
 
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my bios settings say that the system temp is 39 and the cpu temp is 45-46 with the cpu fan speed changing inbetween 1100-1200rpm. So how come the biod reads 45-46 yet coretemp reads 60-62?? Also in the program speed fan what do the 3 temp readings refer to? temp 1 is 38 temp 2 kept at 45 and temp 3 is -2.

Regards to the loosening of the ram timings to 5-5-5-15 and changing VDimm to +3. You have lost me a bit there :( In the bios settings System memory multiplier is the only ram relevent settings i can see, and these are set to 2, which results in the memory frequency being 667mhz (The correct value for pc5300?) If i set the memory multiplier to anything above 2, then the memory frequency goes above the 667mhz mark, should this be done? can you go above the stock mhz with regards to ram? If you can then this will mean i can happily up the cpu host frequency from 333mhz to say 370mhz and not worry that the ram mhz will be over the stock 667mhz.

Quickish replies would be a great help ppl :)
 
Well CoreTemp reads the temp from a different sensor than both the BIOS and Speedfan. Most ppl regard the CoreTemp sensor to be closest to the truth.

In Speedfan, Temp1 is the chipset temp and Temp2 is it's version of the cpu temp. Disregard Temp3.

As for the RAM, press Ctrl and f1 together on the main BIOS screen, and then set the Dram Timing Selectable option to Manual and that will unlock the RAM timings. Keep the RAM multiplier at 2.0 and the ram speed will increase as you increase the fsb.
 
ok thanks a lot. So can i increase the cpu fsb and not worry about the Ram frequency going over the stock speed of 667mhz???
 
Yea if you set the timings to 5-5-5-15. I've a feeling that that memory may do 800mhz on those timings. You'll probably need to set the vdimm to atleast +3, maybe +4.

But keep a close eye on those temps.
 
So ive enabled the Ram options with ctrl and f1. Now i have the following options:

Cas Latency Time [Auto]
DRAM Ras# to Cas# Delay [Auto]
Dram Ras# Precharge [Auto]
Precharge Dealy (+RAS) [Auto]
ACT to ACT Delay [Auto]
Rank write to READ Delay [Auto]
Write to prechage delay [Auto]
Refresh to ACT Delay [0]
Read to precharge delay [Auto]
Memory performance enhance [Normal]

Ok so which of these should i be setting to 5,5,5,15 . And what is this doing? slowing the ram down? and also where is this vdimm option that i should be setting to +3 ???

going on the fact that my bios and speed fan are saying the cpu is at 45oc and coretemp 62 @ 2.3ghz from 1.86ghz...what temperatures should i be wary of? Im not looking for a huge overclock to be honest, i would be happy to set it to 2.6-2.8 really and wouldnt want to go anymore.
 
Personally i wouldn't want it going over 60c under load. Have a read of the big ds3 thread in the motherboards forum. The ds4 is basically the same and all the right settings are posted several times in it.
 
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