E6700 too hot

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Idiot warning.

I have a E6700 overclocked to 3.4. Voltage 1.41

It is in a TJ07 with all 6 fans replaced with Ambers and a Zalman 9500.

A P5W DH MB Geil RAM 800 HZ. 7600GT

All new kit which was my first complete new build.

Not happy with my first overclocking attempts or the temperature of the CPU which I am assuming is limiting me.

Core temp is reporting 52 and under load up to 68. Stable.
Why? I am going to have to reduce the clock. At standard settings idle temp was 48 - still hot.

Air out of the exhausts is not hot. Air pushed out through the Zaman is not hot. The heat pipes are not hot to the touch nor are the North or South Bridges and yes I have taken the clear protective wrappings off.

I have reseated the Zalman so the air blows up to the exhaust fan. The Thermal paste is fine (in my view). I used a pea sized amount and spread it. All the fans seem OK.

MB temp reported by ASUS probe is 42.

I am certain I have the ambers either intaking or exhausting correctly.

Other than reseating the Zalman yet again - any ideas what I am doing wrong?
 
IHS is concaved, warped badly fitted and flat.

So as you would lapp the HSF lap the IHS!!! I lost 8C on my last one!

I've also had the IHS of my 6800 and direct die and was able to clock a lot lot lot more!

Also what cooler you using and paste
 
Drazic said:
IHS is concaved, warped badly fitted and flat.

So as you would lapp the HSF lap the IHS!!! I lost 8C on my last one!

I've also had the IHS of my 6800 and direct die and was able to clock a lot lot lot more!

Also what cooler you using and paste
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I did give an idiot warning. I have no idea what you are talking about - sorry.

What is the IHS and HSF What do you mean by lapped?.

I am using a Zalman 9500 and silver artic paste.
 
Lapping is where you take the BASE of the HSF and run it back and forrh over some emery paper, 400, 600, 800, 1200, 1500 and then 2000 then you polish it then a bit of totmato ketchup to clean it and job done totaly flat and what not. You do this with a bit of glass or a mirror and the paper over it so the surface is 100% flat.

IHS is the top of the CPU the Intergrated Heat Spreader

HSF Heatsink and Fan

AS5 is cool, probs putitng too much on mind!
 
No it doesn;t only if you fanny about with it and do it wrong and many have been down now.

Recent topic at XS and many took part and many got theres off on LGA and AM2 and there odd newer mount and Conroe too, dead easy
 
So how did you get yours off? ;)

This shows otherwise

AM2 isnt soldered on. And you've got to be pretty stupid to do it to a CPU that costs that much. To the original poster if you lap your heat spreader or anything it will void your warrenty. Overclocking does too but that cant be told by a physical appearance....
 
To the OP: Dont worry about taking the ihs, cant be done easily and drazic is speiling nonsense as per usual. As said thought it might be an idea to get some very find sandpaper and try and smooth out the top of the processor as it may be getting poor contact. Or perhaps use some more thermal paste as the tops of these cpu's seems to be particularly badly machined.
 
Drazic said:
No it doesn;t only if you fanny about with it and do it wrong and many have been down now.

Recent topic at XS and many took part and many got theres off on LGA and AM2 and there odd newer mount and Conroe too, dead easy
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For Gods sake don't listen to this "advice".

AM2 and Conroe cores are soldered to the IHS. To remove the IHS you need to slice around the core (blind) and then heat it for long enough to melt the solder (so we're talking 90-100C).

Also if you pop the IHS off then the S775 retention mechanism won't work as it won't have anything to clamp down on. In other words you'll have to fashion something to stop your processor falling out out of the socket as soon as you put the motherboard in an upright position.

Drazic hasn't got an ****** clue what he's talking about as per usual, and in this instance his "advice" is downright dangerous.
 
Drazic said:
IHS removal!!!!
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With people claiming success rates of 1 in 4. Conroe IHS aren't poppable in the same way that S939 chips were, where all you needed was a steady hand.

And cut out the personal attacks Drazic.

Jokester
 
Mr Mister said:
actually drazic you got a pic of your cpu without ihs?
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Don't be stupid, he doesn't even do the overclocking on his equipment - he gets other people to do it for him.

Those two links - one of them talks about what to do IF you can get the IHS off (how to adapt the S775 retention mechanism to clamp down on the CPU without a IHS) and the other one a couple of people managed to pry them off Celerons.

Read the VR-Zone link - anyone who says removing it is easy is an idiot.

My advice to the OP is not to even bother attempting this unless you can afford to lose the CPU without caring about it - as the job is far from easy, and doesn't end once you remove the IHS - you've got the issue of how you can mount a heatsink without crushing the core, how you can even get the CPU to remain in the socket when the board is upright, etc.

Lapping the IHS is an option but you'll lose your warranty.

Please bear the above in mind before doing anything draz(t)ic to your kit.
 
Come on guys all this talk about lapping HS and removal of IHS is a little too extreme for someone who admittidly is a little uninformed (no offence meant fulcrumer). The chances are that he would possibly get an even worse mount/finish than he had from the start and then also have no warranty, or even worse a dead cpu(which judging by the amount of failed attempts by experienced people seems most possible!). Recommending removing an IHS, which is a lot more difficult on C2D than skt 939, to someone who by his own admission is new to building pc's is quite frankly reckless and foolhardy. Basic info is what I think he is after so here goes:

First off what you can try is reversing the case exhaust fan if it is the nearest fan to the CPU heat sink fan so that it will then be blowing clean cool air over the cpu fan enabling it to cool the processor (you may want to create an exhaust fan somewhere else to exhaust the hot air). That in itself should drop the temps slightly on the cpu. If you are still unhappy with the temps you should check the mount of your cpu, try to make sure that the mount is even - when you remove the 'HSF' check the paste to see if it even distrubuted and has had a good contact with the IHS (the metal plate on top of the cpu). If the mount is uneven then clean off the old paste and re-apply with some decent paste such as AS5 - there are plenty of guides on here how to do this and what to use to clean. I personally prefer to spread a very thin layer of AS5 over the IHS with a plastic card - never had a bad mount with that method yet.

If all else fails then try mounting the original HSF as its almost foolproof and should give you an indication on whether the problem lies with the IHS being concave/convex or your zalman/case airflow.

GL
 
Thanks guys.

I have no intention of lapping the IHS.

I am sure the AS5 is ok and spread ok. It is not exactly hard is it. It is possible that the it is not as tight to the IHS as it should be but the screws are as tight as I can get them.

I have a TJ07 with 4 intake fans and 2 exhuast. I have 2 rear fans intaking straight on to the Zalman cooler which is now exhausting up directly to the 2 exhaust fans at the top of the case. The other 2 intakes are cooling the HDs which are 28.

On this cooler morning and a window open it is 48 at idle in core temps and 35/38 in speedfan. (There is over a 10 degree difference in cores at load?)

Nothing is even warm to touch I simply now do not believe it is hot.
 
fulcrumer said:
Thanks guys.

I have no intention of lapping the IHS.

I am sure the AS5 is ok and spread ok. It is not exactly hard is it. It is possible that the it is not as tight to the IHS as it should be but the screws are as tight as I can get them.

I have a TJ07 with 4 intake fans and 2 exhuast. I have 2 rear fans intaking straight on to the Zalman cooler which is now exhausting up directly to the 2 exhaust fans at the top of the case. The other 2 intakes are cooling the HDs which are 28.

On this cooler morning and a window open it is 48 at idle in core temps and 35/38 in speedfan. (There is over a 10 degree difference in cores at load?)

Nothing is even warm to touch I simply now do not believe it is hot.
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The coretemp is actually from inside the cpu which is usually 10-15C hotter then the external reading your getting from speedfan. . . You might just have a hot running CPU.. If your heatsink is seated properly and temps are still high then theres not much you do...

My E6600 runs hotter then most, idling at 52C and load 66C at 3400MHz.. And thats its OC limiit..... its pot luck with whatever you get unfortunately.. :(
 
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