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So, by your calculations, on average each Valve employee would get about $120k...
And who are 'the internet people'?
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So, by your calculations, on average each Valve employee would get about $120k...
And who are 'the internet people'?
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It aint that bad for steam, fair enough they have to provide the bandwidth. However they are also forcing you to come back and possibly buy more games from them.
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Yeah, that's a solution but I didn't pay the money to do that and that's what really getting to me. They have my money and then told me to **** off due to their incompetence.
Anyway, I hear those private servers are populated by people who like Burger King and as such just waddle around being easy targets.
Firstly you use quotation marks round something you paraphrased and now make it look like they swore at you. No they didn't so stop embellishing on your stories.
Did you make a new account?
also realise that not every single user is redownloading everything ever single day, i download most of my games once and backup
there are of course peaks and dips to the bandwidth costs, clearly though the cost is not significant enough to warrant valve changing their pricing strategy for steam and its products
there are of course peaks and dips to the bandwidth costs, clearly though the cost is not significant enough to warrant valve changing their pricing strategy for steam and its products
Er, no? EA would corrupt and butcher Valve just like they corrupted and butchered every single other developer they laid their infected and vile fingers on. There is a reason I have never bought a single EA product since Battlefield 2142, with Crysis getting _serious_ consideration of which the demo farce is not helping with at all.
You have no idea how horrendous EA is as a business - they are one of the most eskewed and amoral of the video games developers in the world, and have no qualms about making a profit over gross neglect of quality and playability. Their hypocrisy is also staggering, with one of their chief developers stating that endless sequels are killing the industry - this is just after they released their upteenth iteration of the Sims, Medal of Honor, Fifa Soccer and NFL games.
EA can die in a pit for all I care.
You have no idea how horrendous EA is as a business - they are one of the most eskewed and amoral of the video games developers in the world, and have no qualms about making a profit over gross neglect of quality and playability. Their hypocrisy is also staggering, with one of their chief developers stating that endless sequels are killing the industry - this is just after they released their upteenth iteration of the Sims, Medal of Honor, Fifa Soccer and NFL games.
EA can die in a pit for all I care.
not all content servers are valve owned right? ATleast they never used to be, some were company sponsored, who in return got the advert space.
Yea fair dos bandwidth does cost, but £3 for the ability to download it another 2 years? hm i dont think so!
Doubt valve will charge for the bandwidth, after all if people buy on steam problem free it means they dont give a cut to EA(or whoever) is publishing in shops etc.
Yea fair dos bandwidth does cost, but £3 for the ability to download it another 2 years? hm i dont think so!
Doubt valve will charge for the bandwidth, after all if people buy on steam problem free it means they dont give a cut to EA(or whoever) is publishing in shops etc.
Ouch!
Sorry, but they did tell me to **** off, I just can't use the exact wording verbatim on these forums!
No, but STEAM is by far the most widely known, especially since it's been mandatory for Valve games for a few years (unlike games from most publishers e.g. EA).
That's why I think it would be a smart move for EA to try and swallow them up (depending on cost of course), would provide a good and popular platform for online distribution of their titles.
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If I ever have to buy an EA game (Rare these days) I will always buy second hand, dont want any of my hard earned money going into their filthy pockets.
Probably cos EA are that wlel known and are that good at publishing, hell the amount of people that lap up their crap year after year.. wouldnt you go to EA? its like they hypnotise people or something.
It's because EA are the very best when it comes to advertisements and publishing.
It's when people have goes at them for games like Battlefield errors, yet EA didn't make it.
When it comes to EA, they tore up an agreement 2 years ago to only continue licenses or movie tie-ins, however he was replaced and the new guy came in and got rid of this agreement (hence the comment regarding sequels). As a result, work has begun on developing and publishing new games such as Army of Two and Skate which both come to mind immediately.
The problem is uninformed people blaming EA for stuff that they have no clue about, or jumping on a bandwagon blaming them because "my mate said this and that happened". Very rarely are people talking direct problems in regards to EA, a lot of the times it's game developed out-house and published by them, or because they prefer PES to Fifa. It's a fickle world full of fickle people and many people here are certainly guilty of being fickle at times.
The only comment in regards to negativity I can take seriously in here is Azagoths, which is completely unprofessional on EA's behalf, but if they had spent a year trying to figure it out as to why DiCE's game wasn't matching up with their servers then they don't know.
It's when people have goes at them for games like Battlefield errors, yet EA didn't make it.
When it comes to EA, they tore up an agreement 2 years ago to only continue licenses or movie tie-ins, however he was replaced and the new guy came in and got rid of this agreement (hence the comment regarding sequels). As a result, work has begun on developing and publishing new games such as Army of Two and Skate which both come to mind immediately.
The problem is uninformed people blaming EA for stuff that they have no clue about, or jumping on a bandwagon blaming them because "my mate said this and that happened". Very rarely are people talking direct problems in regards to EA, a lot of the times it's game developed out-house and published by them, or because they prefer PES to Fifa. It's a fickle world full of fickle people and many people here are certainly guilty of being fickle at times.
The only comment in regards to negativity I can take seriously in here is Azagoths, which is completely unprofessional on EA's behalf, but if they had spent a year trying to figure it out as to why DiCE's game wasn't matching up with their servers then they don't know.
As a publisher I see it somewhat EA's responsibility to have certain quality checks on games though, and we all know that often EA do influence devs sometimes, but the amount of EA games that iv played and just not been impressed with.. well yea, I tend to avoid most of them.
Never really understood how a company as big as EA with all its resources allowed bf2 to have such a crap server browser etc, concidering it was the closest to ONLINE-ONLY you could get without being one. They do well as a company though, so im sure they dont care
Never really understood how a company as big as EA with all its resources allowed bf2 to have such a crap server browser etc, concidering it was the closest to ONLINE-ONLY you could get without being one. They do well as a company though, so im sure they dont care
It seems you are unaware of EA Link, and the vast amount of issues it has, such as charging twice for games without a refund, login identification issues, statistics tracking and poor patching implemention. Plenty of people including myself has had direct problems with EA, thank you very much. This isn't some 'oh my mate said so' issue, problems and issues with EA products and actual games are widespread. Their ethos of buying out smaller developers and tinkering massively with proven formulas can hardly be viewed as something only 'fickle people' see. Matrox, Westwood Studios, DiCE, and all the rest had amazing games with little technical problems before EA bought them. Now with Matrox we have regurgitated Sims after Sims that have eroded the original formula so much it's just irritating to even look at the game. Westwood Studio's Command and Conquer went down the pooper since EA's buyout as well - a gradual decline in the series' quality shows this due in no small part to deadlines and ridiculous overtime (look up EA's wonderful overtime history, it's not pretty!). DiCE.... don't get me started on DiCE. 2142 is a sham that can't keep up statistics or smooth EA Link patching and implemention to save its life.
There are many many other issues, this post is only the tip of the iceberg really. EA has been known to delete unfavorable comments and criticism from its wikipedia entry too. Speaks volumes really.
In that case that point is defunct as right here right now EA are charging users for the privilege of downloading content they have paid full price at a later date whereas Steam does not.
IF HL2 was released by EA then there may be room for further discussion on the matter but it wasnt so therefore its a mute point. Besides, that comment mentioned the retail version - I would think Steam would have provided an online copy to run alongside the EA retail version similar to its current range of available products but again its irrelevant to this thread - unless they decided to charge Steam users a fee for the privilege also.
There's never anything to gain from playing the "what if" card. EA did not release it - end of story.
With regards to being "quick to have a go at EA, yet praise Steam" - considering they both have similar downloadable content services, I think it does indeed warrant a comparison and I stick by my opinion:
EA charging fee = boo hiss!
Steam not charging = yay!