EA & Valve combine hmmm

I thought this was done with last night but nope, everything anyone says gets ignored and ridiculous things like valve only having 5 or 6 developers have been said.

Tesco being better at distributing is a joke right, you can't actually believe such nonsense can you?
 
Its true! If you gave EA a stack of Gingsters Peppered Steak Slices or assorted DVDs and told them to distribute them nationally they'd not have a clue! All EA are good for is distributing games which hardly makes them good at it :rolleyes:

...now i want a steak slice ><
 
davewhite04 said:
It worked, but it would have worked if they used tesco's, if not it would have sold more as tesco's probably wouldn't have charged as much.
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Tesco don't know the first thing about publishing or distributing games. If they're anything like Sainsbury's, they don't even deal with the distribution of CDs, DVDs and games in their own stores; they use a company called Technicolor who aren't very good at it either.

I cannot possibly understand why you think EA would have interfered in Portal 2's development, or why you think Valve would have allowed it whilst keeping it such a secret. If they were involved to any great degree, the internet would know by now.

Incidentally, it stinks of irony when you dismissively say "Let it be" and "Clearly you guys are passionate about this" when you're the person who's started and fuelled this nonsensical topic in the first place.

davewhite04 said:
The Devil is in the detail.
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Ignorance is bliss.
 
davewhite04 said:
It just doesn't sit well with me, having this little partnership going. EA leading publishers? More like the killers of originality.

It wouldn't take EA to sell this game, tescos could publish it and it would still sell by the bucket load.

Sleeping with the enemy, EA will get the plaudits for Portal 2 as the ordinary joe will just see EA plastered on the box. Surely Valve is big enough to do this themselves?

Valve have went way down in my book.

As for the Orange box, that was an old package re-issued and dumbed down for the consoles, Portal 2 is supposed to be Valves next big game, but they'd rather have EA plastered over the box.

All about money, I wouldn't be surprised if EA are paying Valve so they can do this for them.

While I'm talking about Valve, I remember when Halflife 2 was delayed etc. graphics cards sold with vouchers for the game as it was going to really test them out, and it did.

Why have they not done this again, and really pushed the PC ahead of the consoles big time? I think Valve have already give up the PC as their platform of choice now, they've had plenty of time to improve the vastly dated source engine.

Minor rant over.
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Your are talking rubbish.

Your thread is a non story.
 
A company using the services of another company to make more money for both companies? Wont someone please think of the children!
 
davewhite04 said:
My point is why do they use a competetitor to do this?
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Do you realise that other developers and publishers also use Steam as digital distribution method? They do this because Steam (owned by Valve), is the best method for this. Not because all those companies are owned or controlled by Valve in any way.

EA are the world leaders in physical distribution, that's why Valve use them.
 
FrenchTart said:
Quite a comedy thread. I've not seen so much ignorance spammed so much in quite a while. Bravo, davewhite04, bravo.
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have to agree, what a non thread...was ready to start crying into my tea when I read the thread title.
Just had a look at the few disk boxes I have left lying around 4 out of 6 had EA on them and all were cracking games...i don't see the problem with them distributing or doing there partnership thing with smaller studios it can be beneficial to both of them.
IF you do not like EA don't buy the games they are associated with but personally i think you would be missing out.
 
LOL fair play to davewhite04 for actually coming back to this thread this morning after that tsunami of mocking :) :)

The correct response, though, is to admit you overreacted to some very old and non-worrying news, and stop digging this hole for yourself! It'll start getting hot down there soon.

Peace :)
 
davewhite04 said:
The Devil is in the detail.
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Ironic considering the origins of that saying.


davewhite04 said:
EA is a developer, the biggest developer in the gaming industry. Valve are programming a game, giving it to the biggest company in the industry, who are developers, and letting them distribute it for them. Now it seems they have their name associated with the product advertising, they are the ones sending out the emails not Valve, it makes you wonder whos game is it?
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Ea have a deal with valve to distribute their games and have since 2005 (when valve had a bust up with vivendi over cyber cafe rights and steam).

EA essentially act as a record label for the hard copies of valves games, valve can either go with EA who have masses of advertising power and production power for games along with a heck of a lot of leverage with retail stores because of their large library.

It also means that for EA, who get a cut of the retail sales, it makes a lot of sense to send out adverts to their massive user base to increase those sales as it increases their cut.


The only other choice valve have is going to a smaller company with less clout (they can't go to activision as they're merged with vivendi their former publishers and are still suing them over payment owed) and probably end up paying more for less or they can set themselves up as a hard copy distributor which would cost millions and be a huge waste of money. also it would probably be breach of contract with ea.


Working with a competitor isn't really a bad thing if it gets you more money that you would without them.


Look at your internet your data will be passing though many network owned by many different ISP's they all agree to let each other use their lines as otherwise they wouldn't be able to offer the same service and gain as much profits.
 
davewhite04 said:
It worked, but it would have worked if they used tesco's, if not it would have sold more as tesco's probably wouldn't have charged as much.
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Tesco's probably aren't interested in entering the publishing market and don't have the contacts or sway top even get the huge volume of CD's produced let alone distributed (other stores like wall mart may also not wish to stock a product adversing another supermarket on it).


EA actually make the CD's and then have them moved to shops around the world along with producing the promotional media (display stands, ad emails etc) and all the time keeping the game safe from leaks (or trying to.)

Tesco don't have the skills, experience and more importantly the desire to do this.
 
Not wanting to tarnish everyone who participated in this with the same brush, but I must admit the majority of you seem to be knicker wearing drama queens who seem to share similar characteristics to the parrot :)

Thanks for the ad-hominem session, it's been interesting.
 
Lol - drama queens!? Who's the one jumping up and down shouting 'ra ra ra evil corporations ra ra' about a piece of 5-year old non-news regarding a completely normal and harmless commercial partnership? :)
 
davewhite04 said:
Not wanting to tarnish everyone who participated in this with the same brush, but I must admit the majority of you seem to be knicker wearing drama queens who seem to share similar characteristics to the parrot :)

Thanks for the ad-hominem session, it's been interesting.
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Haha, you really have lost grip with reality haven't you?
 
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