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That's right gents, it's the terror-term; Erectile Dysfunction

A large part of me wonders why the hell i'm writing this post, it could well just result in mockery and mickey-taking. But then on the flip side there's the fact that from a quick Google, it looks like a lot of people have experienced this but due to lack of knowledge on the matter have suffered as a result. As someone who has experienced the horror that this affliction evokes, even if one person who's suffering but hasn't realized the cause is able to resolve the issue as a result of reading this then it's worth the mockery.

So a short back story (to hopefully prove I'm not a weirdo and this, in fact, can happen to anyone), I had been in a relationship since I was 18. Aside from a short 'crisis breakup' we had been together for eight years in total and never had issues 'in the sack' been encountered. For reasons that are too complicated and frankly uninteresting to go into, the relationship ended. As someone who too easily becomes attached to women, but also felt that I needed time to be single, I opted to abstain from one night stands and dating as a whole until I felt ready to commit again. Opting instead for treating social occasions as time to spend with friends and family rather than go on the pull, I felt that I was able to really grow as a person in the past year. Unfortunately as a typical red-blooded male, this also predictably left rather strong urges; urges I felt the need to quell.

This leads us to the crux of the story; I turned to pornography. At this point I feel I must stress I was not into anything weird, this was just bog standard, run of the mill pornography that I bet the vast majority of us here have, are or will access/ed. Whilst I will happily admit my frequency of 'use' increased as time passed, I never became what I would call addicted or viewed it excessively. I even viewed porn when I was in my long term relationship, but this was alongside having sex with my partner.

Skip forward a year, I felt I was ready to be with someone again. Fortunately it didn't take long for me to find someone I really get along with and, after a few dates (as you would expect from a respectable lady :p) the relationship took the next step. All was fine, we had a couple of very great nights together and I was happy... or so I thought. After a couple of weeks I started to struggle to get aroused, things I took for granted such as erections when I woke up in the morning (sorry, too much information I'm sure; but you will see why this fact is important later) mysteriously ceased. My sex drive plummeted and as a result, so did intimacy in what should be the most exciting stage of a relationship. I was in trouble. This worried me so much I went to the doctors, something which I try to avoid at all costs being a typical male. The doctor quickly understood my symptoms and even described a few that I was having, but had not associated with my problem. She was able to explain the resolution of the issue and was even able to give a time frame before things returned to normal, so what was it?

That's right, erectile dysfunction caused through use of pornography. I'm not a biologist but from her discussion what I've gleaned is that porn causes our brain to react differently to when experiencing 'natural sex', producing a way higher level of dopamine, effectively causing your sex drive to become addicted and making it harder and harder for you to get hard (pun intended) under normal circumstances.

But I had stopped watching porn as soon as I started seeing this new girl and at first things were fine, this made no sense? Surely I should have become MORE excitable? This brings me to the cure and the horrifying 'come down':

Quit porn, cold turkey. Sounds simple right? It turns out the effects of the come down can be surprising:


First few days - Massive sex drive.

Symptoms - Horny, horny, horny
Generally no problems will present in the first few days, you will however be incredibly horny which seems logical due to removing pornography from your life. Arousal and intercourse aren't an issue.

Second week - Complete shut down

Symptoms - Complete loss of sex drive, depression, anxiety (all three quoted from doctor)
This is the one that shocked me. Many people have the experience of your sex drive completely shutting off; you no longer get aroused physically, despite still very much wanting to have sex. This is the point where I realized there was a problem. Instinctively you feel the need to turn to pornography to regain your sex drive, this is exactly the wrong thing to do as you return to square 1.

Up to 8 weeks - full recovery.
Symptoms - Return of sex drive, much greater ease of arousal than before quitting.
I guess this depends on the level of your porn use and the extent of the duration, but many seem to state that 8 weeks porn free will see you back to having the sex drive of a horny teenager. I'm only two weeks in and have got past the 'complete shut down' and feel my return to form approaching. Apparently once you're back on form,resuming watching porn at a much reduced rate will not cause problems, but returning to high frequency use will see you needing to get your high density dopamine fix in no time.


So why not just continue using porn and resume an active sex life without the fuss? A quick google will show you that hundreds of people who have been viewing porn excessively for an extended period begin to have ED issues whilst continuing use. Eventually it often leads to men needing to 'up the excitement' and view more and more extreme pornography just to get excited, leaving any chance of arousal in normal conditions by the way-side.

A few anecdotes and some helpful advice can be found all over the net, this is one useful example:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marnia-robinson/no-porn-no-viagra_b_489194.html



If you're that guy, if you take a lady home for the evening and are unable to perform and assume its nerves, if you're unable to become aroused without physical stimulation, have another think about the situation... you could well be addicted to porn.

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I can't help but feel you have to be going at it pretty excessively with the porn to encounter any such problem.

I completely expected this to be one of, if not the first statement to be made in a reply. It's certainly the assumption I would make if I was in your position. I guess it depends on your definition of excess. Five, maybe six times a week would probably be an accurate guess at the average, but I wasn't exactly counting!

Some anecdotes speak of viewing it 3 or 4 times a day, this is clearly excess and as a result its unsurprising that this leads to issues. What I do know though is not having sex for an extended period of time alongside use of pornography seems to compound the effects significantly.
 
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If you want to know whether you have the beginnings of a problem or not, try to masterbate without pornographic aid.

This is something that I've seen stated several times by other people and is sound advice. A lot of people also say a test can be the complete opposite; see if you can become aroused whilst looking at pornographic material without physical stimulation.

You are talking of excessive masturbation rather than simply watching pornography aren't you?

Well, the combination of the two yes. I haven't seen any anecdotal evidence of masturbation alone causing these sorts of issues, nor simply watching porn without 'acting upon it'.
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU

Worth the watch. :)
TED Talk on the subject.

Just watched this. It's utterly fascinating to be honest, if slightly worrying that it isn't more widely educated that pornography is causing these issues. Apparently most doctors don't recognize the symptoms and instead diagnose depression or other psychological issues, I'm glad my doctor was clued up.
 
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Its also interesting that in your case, it also affected your basic physiological functions such as morning erection. That doesn't really mesh with the idea that this is a psychological issue imo. Ditto on the libido drop. If your libido dropped, surely you wouldn't be sorting yourself out on the regular either.

If you watch that TED lecture video it will answer both of those questions. Your brain becomes 'used to' the excessive dopamine influx that frequent porn use creates, thus making it harder to become aroused. Cutting that influx off caused my sex drive to nose-dive as the receptors in my brain weren't getting that quick-fix hit anymore. One quick google for 'ED pornography' has hundreds of anecdotal experiences that line up pretty much exactly as the TED lecture outlines and with my own experiences, thus for me making it a pretty strong case and not feeling the need for a second opinion. It's not a psychological issue in the same sense an addiction to drugs isn't psychological; there is a physical reaction in your body occurring.

The reason for my post is because, two weeks in, I'm already feeling the benefits. Unless it's a placebo effect (which I will admit, it could be, but so many people have experienced the same I'm willing to believe its true) it really is working.

You are right though, abstaining from sex for a year whilst continuing to watch porn is pretty much the sole cause of the issue. I must stress though, I do not regard myself as an anti-social loner type; the whole reason for abstaining was to enhance my social life, forgoing the constant need to be 'on the pull' in favor of spending quality time with friends and family. In the past year I have done far more interesting and exciting things than I did in my whole 8 year relationship prior to being single, it's just a shame I didn't know pornography was a ticking time bomb for me!
 
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Google for ED anxiety and you will get a billion more results. Its fine if you want to believe in this and if it works for you thats great, but id be careful to list it as gospel for all.

So did you just stop watching porn or did you stop jerking off completely?

Oh certainly, but I can't help but wonder how many of those are people suffering from the same thing as me, but don't realize? Again referring to that TED lecture; he states a case study where they were unable to find a sufficient control group of college students that didn't watch pornography. I'm not listing it as gospel for all in the slightest, but i do think it was worth stating as even if it helps one person on this forum, its worth it. As i said in my closing statement, they could have an issue, not do.

I've stopped watching porn, I have a urge to resume watching as i know it will likely instantly switch my libido 'back on'. I've stopped masturbating and have had no urge to do so for two weeks; the drive just isn't there without the pornography, but I have felt it returning in the past two days.
 
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Or that you were suffering from the same thing as them but internet doctored yourself into believing something else ;)

Wait....so you haven't actually done this yet? This hasn't actually worked for you yet? The way you posted this made it sound like you had actually done this and it had worked for you. What stage in your effects list are you actually at?

Internet doctored? I saw a trained GP who stated this was likely the issue, which turned me to researching it online through a desire to educate myself on the issue. But hell, if convincing myself that it's something else works, i'll take it.

I felt I was perfectly transparent in my opening post:

Up to 8 weeks - full recovery.
Symptoms - Return of sex drive, much greater ease of arousal than before quitting.
I guess this depends on the level of your porn use and the extent of the duration, but many seem to state that 8 weeks porn free will see you back to having the sex drive of a horny teenager. I'm only two weeks in and have got past the 'complete shut down' and feel my return to form approaching.

No, i'm not 'better' yet. But i'm feeling a hell of a lot better than I did two weeks ago.
 
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I'm not calling you a liar, and i hope it doesn't come across that way..but i find it extremely hard to believe that someone who's willy suddenly stopped working wouldn't have googled their symptoms prior to going to the GP. If you did then i apologise.

I hope you will update us when you get through the process and see if it works. I do hope it does work for you.

Did your doctor say anything about morning erections? because the fact that you weren't getting them is a physiological issue, not psychological one...and may point to a more serious issue.(that now won't be looked into)



Yes, i did jump straight on Google, which made me suspect anxiety ED:

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Erectile-dysfunction/Pages/Symptoms.aspx

Pysical stimulation worked with my partner so it led me to suspect anxiety ED. As a result I booked an appointment with my GP, hoping to be referred to some form of therapist. It was actually the statement of the loss of sex drive and morning erections that moved her onto discussing my use of pornography.

[EDIT] She did have a poke around my junk too, embarrassingly, and didn't find anything physically wrong. I'm also relatively fit; I run 5-10k several times a week and generally eat healthy. These factors led her to state it most likely isn't physical.
 
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Then I would definitely get a second opinion. Morning erections are a physical response to what your body does during REM sleep. Not getting them indicates a physical inability to achieve erection not a psychological one related to porn.

Have you ever had your hormone levels tested?

I'll hold out for another week or so before I get a second opinion; as i've said previously, normal services are beginning to resume. Also just in case you missed my edit, i did also have a physical examination.

I have not had my hormone levels tested, again if things do not improve within the next week I will request one and appreciate your advice.
 
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OP: Bit of a strange question - Do you take finasteride? Had a friend who took it and I heard it can have similar affects to what you described in your first post.

Nope, not on any medication nor do I have any health issues.

The thing is, this is kind of a niche problem. Most people do not have such problems with porn. It tends to affect people who arent especially social and who tend to be sitting at home on the computer most of the time anyway. So their viewing of porn is just another symptom of their larger issue.

I strongly disagree with this sweeping statement. You shot me down earlier in the thread for using anecdotal evidence of myself and others as an aid to explaining the cause/symptoms, yet say completely baseless things like this? It quite frankly screams of hypocrisy. Have you looked at any of the links other people have posted here? This is a more widespread issue than you seem to believe and quite a few experts are beginning to take note of and study it.
 
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