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LambChop

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I've only ever used an AIO, but with these things now going into £200+ territory, I'm going to spend more and just get a custom loop.

I used the EK configurator which is pretty good. After a small gulp at the cost, does that config cover absolutely everything you need ? All I need to do is add the water/additives ?
 
Thanks for the replies all, probably my own ignorance I thought EK was the goto vendor and cant go wrong. I've had a look at the corsair hydro x. Even bigger gulp at the costs, but reviews seem favourable. There are probably better stuff out there, but for the money, convenience of buying all in one place and all one manufacturer makes it a little less stressful and hassle free. I'll have a mess around with the corsair configurator because £1700 to cool a 13900k and 4090 gpu is a bit excessive.
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
if you list your build
and what ek configurator said
we can double check for you

yeah custom watercooling is not cheap
even just the fittings nowadays soon add up
never mind the rest of the stuff too
theres always MM if you dont mind second hand stuff
you could certainly save a significant amount
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I'll be cooling a 13900k and 4090 gpu. My case is a Phanteks Enthoo Primo. EK said £880, Corsair said £1700 lol
 
cpu - JTC XC8
gpu - XG7 RGB suprim/trio
rads - 2 x 480mm radiators, x1 240mm radiator, x1 120mm radiator
fans - x11 LL120 RGB fans
pump/res - XD5 D5 RGB pump combo
icue - commander XT controller, commander pro controller
other stuff-

leak test kit
10/14mm tubing
clear coolant
fittings etc
bending toolkit

total £1566
 
LePhuronn said:
Personally I'd avoid Corsair stuff too :cry:

Hardware Labs make their radiators, Bitspower make their fittings, Mayhems make their coolants (or did when Mick was in charge), but pay extra on top for the Corsair name. Corsair design their own blocks and aren't too bad at a performance, but they use injection molded plastic rather than Acetal/Delrin. Same with the pump tops.

And it's all stupid money to boot.
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ok, now im lost lol
 
LePhuronn said:
Corsair use different OEMs for their components. They design and make the blocks and pump tops themselves, both others make the radiators, fittings and coolant. And those OEMs are established brands in their own right, so you can get their kit directly for cheaper than Corsair's rebranded stuff.

And I question the build quality of Corsair's kit that uses plastic; every other manufacturer uses machined Acteal/Delrin for their black plastic bits, whereas Corsair use injection-molded ABS. It's an inferior and cheaper material process, yet Corsair charge a premium.


What I'm getting at is shop around and get the best prices by mixing and matching components and vendors. For instance Alphacool radiators, Barrow fittings and Watercool blocks is a solid combo that looks great, cools great and costs less than going purely EK or Corsair.
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Ok, so for example... while you were responding.. I was looking at the Black Ice 480GTR 480mm Rad (x2) then x1 240mm then x1 120mm - so that would be the rads ? Then the pump combo, the EK-Quantum Kinetic TBE 200 D5 Acetal as the flow rate seems to be pretty good. That would be the rads and pump/res sorted ?
 
Ross Thomson said:
remember the black ice rads are wider than normal ones. make sure they can actually fit in your case. the LS OEM ones (same as corsair) are 120mm wide while the GT versions are 133mm wide (for the 120mm fan versions). The 140 mm fan versions (LS OEM & GT) are 153mm vs around 145mm for other manufacturers.
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Thanks I'll check that out later :)
 
Ok, so far..

Rads
Nemesis GTX 480mm (Top of case, only place the width will fit)
Nemesis LX 480 (Bottom of case)
Nemesis LX 240 (Side of case)
Nemesis LX 120 (Back of case)

Pump Combo
EK-Quantum Kinetic TBE 200 D5 Acetal

CPU Block
Watercool Heatkiller IV Pro Copper (Intel)

Quick sanity check there, all ok so far ?
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Not sure the 120mm is strictly necessary

Even though it adds to the cost
I personally like to use 2 pumps 1 for redundancy
Pumps are pretty reliable but not immune
To failure
Certainly room in the primo
I had 2 of the ek pump combo in my primo

Actually got a quantum kinetic pump/res for sale in MM
I liked those but switched to a distro now

Edit
And that corsair price is shocking
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I want to try keep noise to a minimum. I think 1 pump combo esp with 1500lh will be enough (almost twice as powerful as the corsair for roughly the same cost). The reason I thought to put a 120mm there at the back as thats normally where Id have a case fan, might as well add a 120 rad there, I'll see how the costs are and if too much I can always remove it. The corsair costs, now that I've been googling around, are laughable.
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Sometimes it's not a this is right that's wrong
Just personal preference or opinion
I think 1200mm of rad adding 120mm won't make a difference
I would rather have a 120mm fan at rear
For some airflow that's not going through a radiator

Same with 2 pumps
It's not 1 won't have enough flow
It's the pc downtime if the pump fails

Talking of which
Did we mention a flowmeter in component list ?
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Temp sensor was mentioned, unless I've missed it, dont think flowmeter was listed, I'll add it to my ever expending list hehe. Skipping the 120mm rad may actually not be a bad idea and converting it to air only could save me a fair bit, thats £80-£100 on rad and fittings saved if I do that.
 
SirConfused said:
I would personally agree with ditching the 120 exhaust at the rear. I think you'll get a lot more value out of just using it to shift the hot air out of the case and having 2 of your 3 rads as intake. That much rad area is absolute overkill anyway.

Also, if you want to save a pretty significant amount of cash given how many fans you're using (and you don't desperately want *all* the RGB) then you could probably swap over to some non-RGB fans that cost less than £30 a pop.
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Done. I'm happy to ditch the rear exhaust. My intakes would be bottom and front with the top exhausting, and of course the back now. I used to think the RGB is really cringe but I do like them a little more now. If I wasnt getting the LL120's I'd certainly go for the ML120's. I'll see what the costs are as the fans will probably be one of the last things I buy.

I'm hoping Watercool announce the Heatkiller V Pro block for the suprim/trio 4090 soon so that it matches the cpu block. Thats kinda what I'm waiting for.
 
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