**EMPIRE TOTAL WAR**

Gah, at a certain point in the campaign this game just gets unstable. In my Prussia game I had conquered Europe and then the game would CTD every time I tried to load a savegame.

Now in my Ottoman game at 1750something it's a lottery whether I can even click on one of my fleets without the game crashing.

It's a joke. Surely.
 
CTDs normally point to problems within the text files/database files in the game. That is certainly the case with MTWII anyway. It's taken years to iron out the bugs in the text files in the mod I play with Medieval II, but we have finally managed it. It's a bit of a poor show that you guys are running into the problems so early on. It suggest they need to release several patches.
 
Trouble is bar a few little patches early on CA don't seem to keep patching with any regularity and we will probably be lucky to see one more big patch before they completely move on to the exspansion. This game has had very well documented issues for a lot of people since day one and those problem sby and large are still there with little if anything done to resolve them. I have to say since sega became the publisher there isn't the emphasis on customer satisfaction there used to be with CA and it is really starting to both annoy me and reading a lot about this game on the net is going to hurt them in the future quite sad.
 
I too was expecting patches and updates at regular intervals, this has not happened and because of it the game has become poor, shame really I moved on months ago.
 
RizlaKing said:
Trouble is bar a few little patches early on CA don't seem to keep patching with any regularity and we will probably be lucky to see one more big patch before they completely move on to the exspansion. This game has had very well documented issues for a lot of people since day one and those problem sby and large are still there with little if anything done to resolve them. I have to say since sega became the publisher there isn't the emphasis on customer satisfaction there used to be with CA and it is really starting to both annoy me and reading a lot about this game on the net is going to hurt them in the future quite sad.
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Actually if you have been following the official forums you will see that they have been giving daily updates on the progress of the first of the larger patches. The first larger patch is due early this coming week. They have also said several times that this will be the first of several patches.
 
Yeah i have followed it Tomb as i did with MTW2 and we all know how that ended up more fixes being done by the community then by CA themself. Time will tell but i really get the feeling this is going to be another case of a couple at best patches and then off to the next money maker. Hopefully rumours that sega are pulling out and CA will be going back to activision are true as things were certainly better then.
 
In my experience of the campaign is that early on when there is little activity throughout the factions, for me there were few issues.

However once you progress past the 1750's when there would appear to be so much more happening with waring factions, increased naval activity etc is when problems like CTD begin.
 
Yeah that seems to be the gerneral trend you put a lot of time in you get to a certain point and bang things start going wrong i have had hardly any crashes imn the early parts of the game all mine have come later on when i imagine things are more complex for the program to work out. While that may be the reason it still shouldn't be happening and they should get it sorted a lot quicker then they are and the official forums really are not a good place to criticise this game or any aspect of CA.
 
RizlaKing said:
Yeah i have followed it Tomb as i did with MTW2 and we all know how that ended up more fixes being done by the community then by CA themself. Time will tell but i really get the feeling this is going to be another case of a couple at best patches and then off to the next money maker. Hopefully rumours that sega are pulling out and CA will be going back to activision are true as things were certainly better then.
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I certainly agree that it would be a good thing if Sega were gone and it was back to Activision. Mind you, I am also very happy at how all the past Total Wars ended up and I have no doubt and no reason to doubt, that Empire will end up just as good. Then again I do tend to have an optimistic personality :)
 
Ross1234 said:
Can I just say, I have played this game for a few weeks and it hasnt crashed once.
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As Rizla correctly says its the inconsistency thats the problem, and of course as anyone involved in programming knows thats also the hardest thing to resolve.

I myself have now played 3 full campaigns from start to finish without crashing at all. (Prussia, Spain and Sweden). My game is hugely modded though and probably bears little resemblence to the original state now.
 
I have no actual information to base this on other than gut feeling, but the CTD's I have experienced seem to be caused by game sounds..

Not had fleet crashes, but then I have had mid-turn-processing crashes.

Getting fed up with it to be honest, I think I've honned my line infantry skills as much as I can be bothered with!
 
CatMangler said:
My GB campaign is now so totally ******. Year is 1771 and when, as above, select a fleet and boom CTD.

Started a new short land based campaign as my beloved GB is unplayable :mad:

EDIT:

Thought there was a patch s'possed to be out this week anyone herd owt?
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Its supposed to be today all being well
 
new patch :P gogogogogo!

CRASH FIXES
- Fixed crash when disbanding generals unit.
- Fix for crash on trying to merge ships from port into ships next to port.
- Fixed rare crash relating to boarding.
- Fixed crash to do with reinforcing armies.
- Fixed crash on revolution video attempting to play.
- Fixed crash for double clicking on sinking ship on campaign map.
- Fix for crash on merging units but moving into fort before army arrives.
- Fixed several crashes related to rakes.
- Fixed crashes relating to battles when running Czech or German versions of the game.
- Fixed crash on moving army into region of faction player has military access and then cancelling military access.
- Fixed crash on trying to exchange ships between 2 fleets.
- Fixed crash on spamming move orders to puckle guns locked in melee combat.
- Fixed hard lock on inviting host to their own MP game.
- Fix to prevent loading of mod causing crash post patch.
- Various end turn crash bugs fixed.
- Fixes to crash bugs relating to completion of revolutions.
- Some fixes relating to merging and disbanding.
- Fix for several crashes in land battles.
- Several crashes relating to attacking cities fixed.
- Several load save game crashes fixed.

CAMPAIGN
- Armies now placed correctly on battlefields in relation to campaign.
- Fix for nearby ships sometimes not being included as reinforcements for battles.
- Fix for incorrect numbers sometimes showing on trade routes.
- Units with limits on how many can be recruited now show how many are available.
- Various fixes relating to rakes and infiltrating.
- Fixes relating to problems moving armies/merging into army's right next to settlements.
- Various trade bug fixes.
- Fix for moving agent from settlement moving army instead of agent.
- Fix for several bugs relating to military access and armies being in regions.
- Fix for tattered flags appearing on fleet/armies even when at full strength/fully repaired.
- Fix for sallying out armies breaking siege at times even when losing the battle.
- Fix for bugs relating to capturing ships on returning to campaign map from naval battle.

LAND BATTLE
- Improvements to path finding have been made.
- Some fixes to units not garrisoning buildings.
- Fort gate ownership made clearer with faction flags appearing at the gatehouse.
- Fix for problem relating to artillery unlimbering after being ordered to limber.
- Fix for puckle guns moving on their own in some circumstances.
- Fix for big slowdown in unit movement on some battle maps in the Road to Independence episodes.
- Fix for missile cavalry not reloading when out of combat.
- Jaegers now have muskets instead of incorrect rifles, Prussian Jaegers keep rifles.
- Quebec episodic land battle fixed ground type in deployment area
- Fix for unrealistic numbers when ending a land battle by quitting on the battle results screen.

NAVAL BATTLE
- Several fixes for ships clipping into each other.
- Improvements to boarding have been made. Crew is more fluid in attack and more resolute in defence. Men survive long fall and officers join in the boarding attack.
- Crew uniforms improved to make identification of the crew type and faction easier.
- Defending ship is not allowed to fire cannons anymore during boarding procedure.
- Improved naval grouping UI and group movement made.
- Improvements made to ship collisions to reduce chance of ships getting stuck.
- Fix for sail damage not being shown when volumetric effects turned on.

MULTIPLAYER
- Various fixes for joining games/game lobby issues.
- Fixes for problems relating to spectators being kicked/locking up on other players joining games in certain instances.
- Long riflemen and winged hussars removed from early era battles.
- Fix for insufficient funds always showing on unit cards even when enough money is available.
- Player name is now displayed on unit tooltips.
- Team chat is now displayed in a different colour.

AI
- Basic fix for AI being unable to move army by fleet.
- Aggression of factions in campaign improved, as well as tweaks to diplomacy.
- Improvements to campaign AI relating to its waging of wars, recruitment and movement of armies.
- Improvements made to battle AI to make it more reactive, use buildings better as well as squares and rakes.
- Siege battle AI improvements made.
- Improvements to naval AI to make it bunch up less, its use of galleys and long range units such as bomb ketches.

MISCELLANEOUS
- Delete save game button added to save game list.
- View replays button added to single player Play Battle menu.
- Various sound fixes and improvements.
- Various incorrect text messages fixed.
- Fixes to various graphical glitches with display of walls.
- Fixes made for stuttering videos.
- Fix for several game option settings not being saved correctly, including settings such as floating flags.
- Fix for unit voices/attack confirmation being heard for all units in an alliance instead of just for the player's army.
- Armour and shield values are now added into melee defence value shown on unit cards.
- Lots of other small and minor bug fixes.

BALANCING
- Land unit recruitment cost in campaign has been increased, with higher cost on higher difficulty level.
- Ship recruitment and upkeep costs have been increased in campaign.
- Various balancing and cost adjustments to improve multiplayer land battle balance.
- Ship costing improvements made for both campaign and multiplayer.
- Economic tweaks have been made to campaign to reduce amount of money made in later part of campaign.

EXTRA NOTE:
- We are aware of an issue with community created maps that results in a crash when someone without the map tries to join the game. This crash will be fixed in the next patch.
- Further work is being done on improving AI Naval invasion behaviour and this will be included in the next upgrade patch.
- Please also note that this update is save game compatible but you should start a new game to see all of the benefits.
 
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