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What are your thoughts on industry wide reduction in engine sizes?

The japs use to love the inline-6. These are now Gone (pushed over in the mid '90s iirc).

Small 2 litre hot hatches are replaced by smaller 1.6 or 1.4 engines with turbos strapped to them to make up for the engines otherwise poor output.

The once REV-Happy V10 BMW M5/M6 is to be replaced with a Turbo powered V8.

All this in an effort to save our Planet.

One other question -

Are you a Turbo or N/A man... or woman?
 
Couldnt care really. As long as I like the car when I drive it thats all that matters to me.
Them reducing emissions etc makes sense, it allows them to keep the bigger engined stuff to an extent
 
the_r_sole said:
what i'm waiting for is a car with cruise control/gps that would stop me speeding.....
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Going to go a little off topic here.

Can anyone tell me why cars dont come with a fixed speed limit (say 70mph for all cars in GB)?
 
Has a lot of it to do with emissions and economy? These modern engines particularly from BMW are producing amazing BHP, without the compromise of higher CO2 as well as giving generous MPG.

I find more that decent petrol engine development is being sacrificed in favour of higher power diesel engines. I drive a diesel and like it but it is no substitute for a great petrol engine.
 
Ilike big engines. No waiting for anything to spool up or deliver boost. You can make big HP and TQ numbers with a 1.4 turbo but you can't make them low down.

My daily driver is a 5.0 V8

This is not even "large" by my standards.

I commute 7 miles each way.

I am hurting the environment less than someone doing a 40 mile commute in a small turbo car.

Cruise control does stop you speeding. I use it in those interminable SPECs controlled roadworks. Set it to 50, sit. You can get GPS assisted speed alert systems as well.

All of which kinda smells to me like abdicating responsibility for your own actions as a driver. Know what the speed limit is and pay attention to it, your road speed and the road conditions. Drive appropriately.
 
I don't agree with it but then I don't believe in AGW. I think it's purely a taxation vehicle.

As for the engines themselves - yes it's a damn shame that engines with more cylinders are being squashed out. By all means get rid of the lasiest V8s/V10s but when things like the CTR/S2000 start disappearing there's a problem.
 
Alistairk said:
I am hurting the environment less than someone doing a 40 mile commute in a small turbo car.
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lol I've made a similar point (with a mate) regarding Road tax. I dont drive that often and I have to pay over £200 per year... Yet my friend across the street in his Toyota IQ pays next to nothing.... and drive to the bloody corner shop.... Anyway... back on topic!
 
Alistairk said:
Ilike big engines. No waiting for anything to spool up or deliver boost. You can make big HP and TQ numbers with a 1.4 turbo but you can't make them low down.

My daily driver is a 5.0 V8

This is not even "large" by my standards.

I commute 7 miles each way.

I am hurting the environment less than someone doing a 40 mile commute in a small turbo car.

Cruise control does stop you speeding. I use it in those interminable SPECs controlled roadworks. Set it to 50, sit. You can get GPS assisted speed alert systems as well.

All of which kinda smells to me like abdicating responsibility for your own actions as a driver. Know what the speed limit is and pay attention to it, your road speed and the road conditions. Drive appropriately.
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didn't say i wasn't responsible for my driving, just think it would be much handier than having to press the wee button all the time, i find that cruise control isn't much use here, across in canada it was easier, but too many erratic (SP?) drivers in the uk to make it worth while!
completely off topic too, sorry op...

on the op, is it not just that they are getting better are getting more power out of smaller engines now, so a new 1.6 engine can out perform an old 2.0?
could also be that no one would buy anything with a really poor consumption because of the running costs, although you look at folk driving hummers, but don't think you can count them as real people!
 
[TW]Fox;18266656 said:
It is irritating, as I am watching my preferred engine choice (3 litre N/A) vanish.
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3 litre petrol BMW unit going?? Please tell me you are joking Fox?

and slighty off topic what is your signature all about? Are you becoming a Vauxhaul man?

Darn please say you are not, when my circumstances improve I want a 5 series and was gonna pick your brains big time.
 
Doesn't bother me.

Same power output can be achieved, six and half a dozon.

In fact, I would normally go for a smaller unit than a larger one personally.
 
Third Opinion said:
3 litre petrol BMW unit going?? Please tell me you are joking Fox?
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The 330i Saloon and Touring were both discontinued early last year. You can no longer buy a 330i unless you want a Coupe or a Cabriolet. The 3 litre engine itself remains but only as a 325i with 204bhp.

And with rumours that the new F30 3 Series will introduce 4 cylinder turbocharged petrol engines it's pretty clear they'll take the place of the 325i in the future model...

Leaving zero normally aspirated 3 litre engines in the range.

and slighty off topic what is your signature all about? Are you becoming a Vauxhaul man?
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They make such great cars.

Darn please say you are not, when my circumstances improve I want a 5 series and was gonna pick your brains big time.
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What you need is an Astra!
 
What about the F10? There are both NA and FI versions of the BMW 6-pot available for that, no?

Why not just offer one or more of those engines on the new 3 series?
 
Tute said:
What about the F10? There are both NA and FI versions of the BMW 6-pot available for that, no?
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Correct - but both the N/A ones are low power variants.

Whichever way you look at it, for years there was a 330i and a 530i. Now there is neither..
 
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