England Euro 2012 post mortem thread.

Danthus · 24 Jun 2012 at 22:35

Technically inferior, we lack the ability to do the basics, this was shockingly exposed tonight.

As for individual performances, Young and Milner were woeful. Gerrard ran his socks of, mainly tracking back, thought Parker was the holding midfielder in order to free Gerrard.

Rooney was poor, he looked unfit, I have no idea why he appears to be asked to track back like he does, tonight he didn't get tight on Pirlo, he looked like he was in no mans land for large parts of the game.

What now for England?

Danthus · 24 Jun 2012 at 22:43

it is time to do away with the old guard too, will Hodgson be brave enough to drop Gerrard and Terry?

Danthus · 24 Jun 2012 at 22:51

Purdy said:
The guy who got 3 assists, and consistently gave great opportunities for goals + actually scored his penalty. Who you going to replace him with?

How old will he be at the next World Cup..........

Danthus · 24 Jun 2012 at 22:56

bloodiedathame said:
Two of the most outstanding players on the field match after match?

Do you go forward by looking at past successes?

Danthus · 24 Jun 2012 at 22:59

dmcg said:
The manager/lineup doesn't have anything to do with the result England just have 2nd class players and deserve to be outside the top6-8 top teams

Manager make a huge difference, look at Sunderland when O Neill took over for example.

Danthus · 24 Jun 2012 at 23:03

dmcg said:
still not world class players only slightly better than what we got

They aren't going to get better warming the bench for Gerrard and Parker are they.

Danthus · 24 Jun 2012 at 23:13

bloodiedathame said:
It's not about past and future, they are still good players so deserve a place. Experience does count for a lot too.

Terry and Gerrard will both be 33 at the next World cup.

Danthus · 24 Jun 2012 at 23:27

Dasheh said:
Pirlo's 33 and look what he did.

He won't against Germany.

Danthus · 25 Jun 2012 at 00:27

cheets64 said:
Not really we needed Rooney to do something, he did nothing, a header he should have burred and a bicycle kicked he ballsed up but put one away for Man Utd, Welbeck did nothing, look how much space Mario made for himself

CLUB > COUNTRY

Rooney seemed to be tasked with man marking Pirlo, how is that getting the best out of Rooney?

Danthus · 26 Jun 2012 at 08:18

cheets64 said:
Well he is our best player and "world class" he did nothing in 2 games fit or unfit.

Inb4 Hodgson told him how to play.

It was pretty clear to people who watched the games that asking one of your forwards to man mark their playmaker isn't is wise move.