England Fined

Yossarian · 1 May 2003 at 16:10

England will get a £70,000 fine following the fans behaviour in the Turkey match.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/england/2989277.stm

A pathetic decision, if Slovakia had to play a game behind closed doors because of racial abuse why not impose the same penalty here. It might make the brain donor candidates think twice about airing their prejudices.

Yossarian · 1 May 2003 at 18:50

Originally posted by [ASSE]Hinchy
Though I don't like all this racism malarky, I have to say that England are treated differently to everyone else. We really do get punished an awful lot when compared to countries like Turkey and especially Italy.

Slovakia - punished with a closed doors game

England - an insignificant fine in contravention of the guidelines

In what way are England unfairly treated? The loss from a closed doors game the FA would have suffered is £2m, a far more appropriate punishment.

its the Turkish fans who cause the trouble.

It wasn't on the evening in question.

Yossarian · 1 May 2003 at 22:00

Originally posted by Big Kev

Everyone seems to forget the Dutch, Germans, Greeks, Italians, Argentinians etc, etc, it's all too easy to jump on the bandwagon and slaughter the English fans all the time.

Its coz England fans are so damn good at hooliganism! They must be trained.

No they weren't involved, but due to their actions towards English fans in the last few years, tempers were obviously raised.

From what i've read of the fans who attacked the Turkish buses, they attacked like wild animals which suggests blind hatred and not raised tempers.

Yossarian · 1 May 2003 at 22:31

Originally posted by Big Kev
As you're a Scot, I'll ignore that comment.

Careful

But where they walking around with big knives, stabbing people to death and terrorising the general population???

Fair point. However to put it into perspective it was 2 people who were stabbed in Istanbul, tragic and unnaceptable but proportionally very small. I can't comment on the terrorising of the other fans except to say English fans trashed and terrorised much of France during France 98.

Yossarian · 1 May 2003 at 22:51

Originally posted by Big Kev

else, so putting things in context, we aren't as bad as a lot of other nations.

Well i agree with that. But I don't think Turkish fans can be demonised for one incident. I know 2 people who went to Istanbul in 2000 when Rangers played Galatasaray, they said it was like any other away game in europe, didn't see any real trouble and apart from the airport welcome from the Galatasaray fans didnt think it was all that hostile.

what about the murders that happen all the time throughout Europe and South America

Exactly, its not only Turkish fans who have killed opposition fans.

Yossarian · 2 May 2003 at 23:25

Originally posted by afraser2k
I'd like to know why they aren't so tough on other countries when racial abuse is dished out to Englands black players.

Slovakia had a game played behind closed doors due to their fans abusing Englands black players, seems pretty tough to me. Especially considering the pathetic punishment England got for more severe offences (racial abuse + pitch invasion).

Yossarian · 3 May 2003 at 00:20

All Scots are so biased against England, it's ridiculous.

Just pointing out Uefas ludicrous double standards and bias.

Originally posted by Big Kev

I've personally experienced worse Scottish fans behaviour.

Worse than what? Launching rabid attacks on buses, continuous racial abuse, or the pitch invasion?