england young team for world cup playoffs

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with the way things have gone in the euro's i was wondering what sort of players would be available to play in the 2014 world cup quallies in preparation for the competition in 2014.

went through the premier leagues sides as listed on the bbc webby and came up with the following list, who would you add/like to see included.

the list is based on the knowledge i have so please no "how could you not list x, y, z" .

tried to include players that will be under 30 (hopefully not to many mistakes) by 2014.

player list:

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arsenal
gibbs
jenkinson
Frimpong
wilshire
walcott
ox

villa
albrighton

chelsea
bertrand
Chalobah
McEachran
sturridge

everton
rodwell
barkley
baxter

fulham
stockdale

liverpool
kelly
flanagan
robinson
henderson
spearing
shelvey
carroll

man city
hart
richards
johnson

man utd
jones
smalling
Cleverley
welbeck

newcastle
taylor

norwich
ruddy

southampton
Lallana
Rodriguez
cork

stoke
Shawcross

sunderland
Wickham
Colback

swansea
Dyer
Sinclair

spurs
Naughton
walker
livermore
Huddlestone
Lennon
Caulker

west ham:
James Tomkins

 

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Huddlestone, Lennon, Caulker and that's just Spurs..

for some reason caulker isn't listed in the team on the bbc webby

 

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adding people on to the list in the OP as they come up and when i remember to check the thread .

 

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Arsenal have Carl Jenkinson. Young rightback who looks ok. Frimpong however has declared for Ghana but is yet to play for them.

weird thing was i checked jenkinson on the bbc list and he shows as finnish ?

frimpong similar thought he had declared for someone else but showed as english.

Smalling shouldnt be anywhere near an England starting 11 D:
He's just a versatile squad player..

versatility is the sort of thing that can get some players into a championship team tho, jack of all trades master of none.

As far as I'm concerned Gerrards gone. Cramp after 70 minutes? He's obviously knackered. It's a shame, but the injuries have caught up.

he went to the championship with lack of match practice/fitness from what i remember due to injuries during the season, similar to scott parker who carried an injury into, and possibly through the championship.

losing barry/lampard to injuries restricted what RH could do after that imo.

glen johnson wasn't put on the list due to age, currently 28, so 30 going into the world cup, looking more towards the sort of players we can get into the quallies to give them proper international experience in competition rather than usual useless friendlies.

 

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He got offered a call up for Finland but is declined. He is undecided. Frimpong knows who he wants to play for, but they haven't wanted him so far. Also he blew his ACL so not really had a chance I suppose.

fair enough, added jenkinson, and left frimpong on as well due to him being available at the moment.

 

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micheal mancienne - Hamburg.
Wilifried Zaha - Palace

as with all the youngsters they will need to have outstanding seasons to get noticed/picked, but i think these 2 will have to have truly OUTSTANDING seasons due to:

mancienne playing abroad (which i applaud him for, most english players don't have the guts to go and try because there likely to get found out with there lack of technical ability imho)

zaha : playing in the championship

now while i don't rule them out i just think FA are to narrow minded to consider them unless they really get noticed.

 

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i agree, i don't see the youngsters as being any better than the current players, and if i'm honest there not likely to get anywhere near as much football to allow them to develop there game as they need either.

of those on the list hart,walker, cleverly, wilshire, walcott & welbeck are the only ones i see getting a chance to start for there teams as well as england.

we went into the euro's with the likes of lampard and barry as backup, they've had enough chances for the management (even RH) to know what they offer, i don't see the point of playing them in what are no more than exhibition games usually.

off the list, the following players are the only ones i can see getting somewhat regular football next season.

i can't say that i think any could currently replace the team from the euro's, but i'd like to see be given the chance in the friendlies leading up to the world cup qualifiers and the qualifiers if we have chance.

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gibbs
albrighton
jones
smalling
Rodwell (injured last season ?)
Richards
Shawcross
Sinclair
dyer
taylor (injured last season ?)
ruddy
Lallana
Rodriguez
cork
Wickham
Colback
Lennon
Tomkins

 

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Lallana, Rodriguez and Cork will (thankfully) be key parts to saints first team next season so should get to prove their ability and general worthiness for the world cup qualies.

unfortunately, and no offence meant to the saints fans, i think its due to them being at a small club (relative to premiership experience) that they will get the games.

the bigger teams generally have to much resting on games to be able to give debuts/run outs/extended runs in the teams to young players.

the loan system helps, but only if they get the involvement/games (wilshire when he went to bolton etc).

hopefully if the players can get developed (the likes of Lallana etc) they won't be snagged by the bigger teams to be left to rot in the reserves.

Not sure why Johnson isn't being included, one of the better players at the euros.

johnson wasn't included for a couple of reasons

1) hes been getting regular first team football for a few season, mostly as a starter.

2) because of age, currently 27, going into the world cup i would expect him to be one of the experienced members of the team, if he continues to do well enough to be selected, and the position has richards/walker to keep him on his toes.

 

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Theres also a good few youngsters at the youth academy who play with skill and vision rather than the normal England standard. Hopefully with the new updates being implemented at the youth academy we can produce even more promising players.

hopefully matt la tiss is still an influence at the club and can encourage them to stick around whether or not they do well this season.

the youngsters need to understand its better to get regular 1st team football than slopping about in the reserves getting paid silly money.

but i think a lot of them are more driven by seeing the money and things the likes of rooney etc have than the football .

not sure if it would work, but i would be more than happy if a wage cap on youngsters based around age/first team appearances was put into place.

 

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There will be no young team, or squad, with Roy in charge.

Same old same old, don't forget if injury hadn't forced his hand we would have had 2 more 30+ year olds as our back up midfielders in this tournament.

can't argue with that, as per so many previous england managers.

as for the squad pre injuries i'll allow RH that simply because of the fact he had a few weeks to try and sort something out, so always likley to go for experience over new blood.

the fact he took ox and actually played him (alright maybe not as much as he could/should), has give me some hope (however slim) that he might introduce some new players into the run up and into the quallies.