Englands World Cup Failure
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Same with Lamps
I wouldn't swap any player in the world for a player who scored 28/9 goals last year and got 17 assists.
As a long term swap, I'm not much for short term aims. I tend to look at teams and players to build for the future, not just for tomorrow. I like and rate Gerrard, but given his age and his confidence levels after the last 12 months. I would definitely swap him for Schweinsteiger if we were talking permanent change.
Yea but when you're talking about players of that quality it all comes down to preference. There's not exactly a right or wrong answer.
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Really? Ignoring the fact he's scored a whopping 32 goals in 304 games for a struggling Bayern team compared to Gerrard's paltry 132 goals in 532 games for a multiple title winning Liverpool team, Schweinsteiger performs on the World stage so he's obviously the better player.
Gerrard has won the title?
By title I'm presuming you mean the PL.I also think it's harsh to say Gerrards less of a player because he doesn't perform on the world stage.
Seriously, you're not going to get much out of Gerrard playing him on the left.
Fair enough, not sure how relevant that is to this arguement though
Very, especially given that there was no timeframe mentioned, just would you swap, not would you swap just for tomorrow
Gerrard has won the title?
He's being sarcastic
Schweinstieger in a dominant Bayern side (in a poorer league too I might add) is being massively out scored by Gerrard in a struggling Liverpool side.
edit: Gustov you're the most gullible person on these forums
Gerrard has won the title?
I also think it's harsh to say Gerrards less of a player because he doesn't perform on the world stage.
Seriously, you're not going to get much out of Gerrard playing him on the left.
I think he was being sarcastic Gussy
He's being sarcastic
Schweinstieger in a dominant Bayern side (in a poorer league too I might add) is being massively out scored by Gerrard in a struggling Liverpool side.
edit: Gustov you're the most gullible person on these forums
Woooooooooosh
Very, especially given that there was no timeframe mentioned, just would you swap, not would you swap just for tomorrow
Sorry I thought it was obvious considering we're talking about the ability of 2 (or 3) players in a game that was played yesterday
Sorry I thought it was obvious considering we're talking about the ability of 2 (or 3) players in a game that was played yesterday
Not to me at 1am
All I read was would you swap them, not would you swap them for yesterday. If we are talking would we swap them for yesterday then I would swap all of them as they won 
Gerrard in his pomp was far superior to Schweinsteiger but not now. Lampard is more limited, for what he does he does it better than Schweinsteiger but Schweinsteiger can do more i.e. beating a man or playing one touch to retain the ball hence why he is probably better at international level where there is more emphasis on adaptability.
Schweinsteiger wasn't even getting a game at Bayern not long ago when Klinsman was in charge, it's only 'fairly' recently he has been playing regularly when he got switched into centre midfield.
Did someone actually say Ramos was world class? I must be watching a different Ramos, he is the Glenn Johnson of Spanish football - ok not that bad but he really cant defend for toffee. Pique is by far a better defender.
Schweinsteiger wasn't even getting a game at Bayern not long ago when Klinsman was in charge, it's only 'fairly' recently he has been playing regularly when he got switched into centre midfield.
Did someone actually say Ramos was world class? I must be watching a different Ramos, he is the Glenn Johnson of Spanish football - ok not that bad but he really cant defend for toffee. Pique is by far a better defender.
One is a full back (naturally) and one is a CB, can't really make comparisons but yea I agree, Ramos is far from world class
You're right, I lack the skills to make sense of what you're talking about.
First it was that England has the 2nd best players in the world, then only two of them were world class, then it was all about potential ability and not real ability...
You're just a deluded England fan in denial. That's about it.