Error 41 whoahs

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Hi go=uys,

I'm wondering if you can help me in regards to my overclock. Basically I have been running stock for a while, as I could not get rid of this event 41 (Random Restart) and it is driving me up the wall.

I have an MSI Gaming 7 z97, and am trying to achieve 4.5ghz. I have a very poor clocker, but it is underwater so temps should be ok. However, I was stress testing last night, and it passed the stress test as stable, but when idle it crashed again?? No BSOD, and only error 41 is present in the event viewer.

What is going on here?

I will start my overclock settings all over again with what you guys suggest, to minimise any further error 41s.

My system specs are as follows:

Core i5 4670k
MSI Gaming 7 z97
16GB 2400mhz RAM
120 GB SSD
2x AMD R9 270x's

Also, when overclocking I find a lot of the items in the MSI BIOS have strange names, and are nothing like Gigabyte or ASUS. Could someone please tell me some of the abbreviations MSI use? I have looked through manual and itt isn't really all that clear.

If you guys need any further information please let me know, I would really appreciate some input with this. :)

Thanks guys.
 
its usually memory/memory controller voltage related,esp with 16gb

idk what its labelled as under msi/z97 though but few clicks more should help
 
SA, and IOA/D are the voltages you need to adjust on Z97, 8gb here but still need theese at 1.200 when overclocking the cpu.

Some of the terms that confuse people are. Cpu input voltage, asus use the terms initial and eventual input, msi call it VCCIN and gigabyte call it VRIN. Then theres cache/or uncore clock, asus use the former, unsure on gigabytes name or msi's. But voltage for this on asus is called cache voltage, on gigabyte its known as VRING voltage. IOA/D and SA seem to be common terms used by all three manufacturers.
 
Thank for the reply guys!

Okay, so noob question incoming...
What is SA, and IOA/D

I have upped the DRAM voltage, but that did nothing.
My VCCIN was 1.850.

However, am I correct in thinking once I have found the SA IOA/D to v1.2 volts?

EDIT:

Just looked in the BIOS and found two entries:

CPU SA Volts - What should I set this to? 1.2v maybe?
CPU IO Digital volts - What should this be set to? 1.2v again?
 
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What ram kit are you using, and does it have an XMP profile? Setting 1.200 on sa/io should be fine. Also with vcore, the VCCIN voltage should be 0,5v higher than vcore. In my case, 1.300 vcore requires 1.800 on VCCIN.
 
i'm on 1.399 vcore.

My VCCIN is currently at 1.9.

My RAM is team group 4x 4GB modules @2400mhz. Not sure if that means anything though.

I have set 1.2 on both the IO/D and the SA. A quick question, what do these actually stand for?
 
Screenshot of all my stuff:

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I'm actually @4.6, but the core is dynamic.
 
Whoah, way too high on vcore, ideally you want to be on 1.35 or lower. The team ram kits feature an XMP profile which will automatically set the ram voltage, speed and timings. Id also have a read through your boards manual which will explain various settings. Also this below is a decent guide for clocking theese chips.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1411077/haswell-overclocking-guide-with-statistics

It is for the i7 series, but the vast majority still applies to the i5 cpu's.
 
Update: just got another event 41 @1.35v. The problem is it seemed stable, I have upped the Vcore to 1.36. Any more suggestions on how to stop this annoying error?

This is what the event 41 error looks like if it helps with anything:

Code:
Log Name:      System
Source:        Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power
Date:          14/12/2014 15:05:34
Event ID:      41
Task Category: (63)
Level:         Critical
Keywords:      (2)
User:          SYSTEM
Computer:      Titan
Description:
The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power" Guid="{331C3B3A-2005-44C2-AC5E-77220C37D6B4}" />
    <EventID>41</EventID>
    <Version>3</Version>
    <Level>1</Level>
    <Task>63</Task>
    <Opcode>0</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x8000000000000002</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2014-12-14T15:05:34.949047300Z" />
    <EventRecordID>5938</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID="4" ThreadID="8" />
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Titan</Computer>
    <Security UserID="S-1-5-18" />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data Name="BugcheckCode">0</Data>
    <Data Name="BugcheckParameter1">0x0</Data>
    <Data Name="BugcheckParameter2">0x0</Data>
    <Data Name="BugcheckParameter3">0x0</Data>
    <Data Name="BugcheckParameter4">0x0</Data>
    <Data Name="SleepInProgress">0</Data>
    <Data Name="PowerButtonTimestamp">0</Data>
    <Data Name="BootAppStatus">0</Data>
  </EventData>
</Event>
 
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event 41 just means the pc shutdown unexpectedly,it doesn't say the reason

any other warning/errors in event viewer? whea parity 19 ones or ones saying memory?
 
Nope the only errors which are present are the error 41s.

EDIT: there are no BSOD's linked to it either? Logging and system dumps are also active.
 
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Nope, the only thing is team speak, but it was also crashing before that was installed.

I was having a lot of issues with BSODs every ten minutes, but that was due to driver conflicts, and messed up programs. I have made sure that is fixed now, and now BSODs have occurred since then. The only problem now is that stupid error 41.
 
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