ethernet around the home

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rjk

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Hi Guys

I am potentially buying a house in the coming months. it will be a new build so starting from scratch.

Ideally i would like to have ethernet ports in both of the bedrooms to avoid using wireless.

What would i need to achieve this, would an electrician be able to sort this out or would i need to speak to a networking company?
 
Many electricians would be able to do the job. But hey, any reason you can't do it? It's quite simple so long as the route from A to B isn't awkward.
 
If it is a new build, I would try powerline networking first. I have been incrediby impressed with mine. My house is 120 years old and I have no idea when it was last wired. I have one socket in the master bedroom with the router and one at the rear of the house. I have lost absolutely zero speed from my fibre connection. Of course, hard wiring will be more pleasing on the eye but a lot of the adaptors are now very small.
 
I'm in similar situation, new build just going up and I'd like wired connections into a number of the rooms (behind the TV, study, bedroom etc).

In the 'options' brochure there's an option labelled up 'home networking' so when we go in to pick out finish for everything I'll enquire. If it's horrendously expensive I'll just speak to the sparky on site and get him to run the cables for me.
 
Pretty sure a sparky could run the cables quite easily during the first fix.
I may be wrong, but I think it is advisable to keep cat5/6 away from power cables, so they shouldn't just be run alongside mains wiring.
You just need to decide where you want the cables routed from and to. Under the stairs is a nice spot if you can get your router in there.
If its only a few sockets around the house you can make up your own mini patch panel using Cat5/6 sockets. A full size panel would probably be overkill.
Alternatively you can just terminate them all and plug directly into the router.
Does the same job, though not quite as elegant as a patch panel.
 
Hey guys

i have some 500mbps powerline units at the moment, but i plan on being there a while and think that just having ports would be neater. I may ask my sparky friend to take a look for me.
 
Proper cabling is far superior to powerline if you're in a position to do it. Very easy to do the termination yourself if you get the sparky to put the cables in.
 
Well worth installing good quality cat5e or cat 6 whilst you can. I installed a minimum of 4 ports per room whilst performing some work on my new house before moving in.

As mentioned above, im a sparky and have no problem with data wiring so don't see why others shouldn't have the required skills to install data for you. It would appear home networking is becoming increasingly popular these days as bandwidth use intensifies for streaming etc, I've done a few data installs now of varying degrees ranging from one point per bedroom to installing a cabinet, 24 port switch and 48 port patch panel with 40+ points around the property
 
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Yeah, go for the cabling, even if it's only one port per room, or to a few rooms, opens up a lot more options for the future.
 
I am currently in the process of having my house re-wired and will be running cat5e cables to each of the bedrooms plus the living room. For each bedroom I will run 3/4 cables to each bedroom and 4/5 cables to the living room. The reason for this is because if a cable breaks for whatever reason you have spares that you can just hook up without pulling all the floors up to re-run the cables, Plus If I intend to run HDMI over ethernet it requires 2 cables to run at full 1080p. If you are doing this from scratch do you have a central location you can terminate all the cables at? Mine will be under my stairs and I am having the phone master socket moved there. I will then connect my modem etc to a hub under the stairs and have this as a central location for all electronics such as a NAS box I will be installing and my media center/sky box will go under here with some IR repeaters for the remotes.
 
I am currently in the process of having my house re-wired and will be running cat5e cables to each of the bedrooms plus the living room. For each bedroom I will run 3/4 cables to each bedroom and 4/5 cables to the living room. The reason for this is because if a cable breaks for whatever reason you have spares that you can just hook up without pulling all the floors up to re-run the cables, Plus If I intend to run HDMI over ethernet it requires 2 cables to run at full 1080p. If you are doing this from scratch do you have a central location you can terminate all the cables at? Mine will be under my stairs and I am having the phone master socket moved there. I will then connect my modem etc to a hub under the stairs and have this as a central location for all electronics such as a NAS box I will be installing and my media center/sky box will go under here with some IR repeaters for the remotes.

Yes, I would (and have) got all my wiring returning to a central point. I installed a small 8u (iirc) cabinet in a storage cupboard upstairs with a 48 port patch panel and 24 port switch. Once we switch to fibre my router will also be in there with the separate fibre modem located at the phone socket.

In regard to your phone socket, I would image the electrician is installing a phone extension rather than moving the master socket as this would require BT Openreach to be involved. What i personally have done is connected my router at the master socket with a cat5e running from there to my 24 port switch in my cab. That way the phone cable distance is kept to a minimum and ensure i achieve maximum ADSL sync speeds. Your cat5e wiring can also be used to provide phone extensions around the property if required.

Always install more data points than you think you will need...trust me they soon go. Also for your HDMI over cat5e, you wont be able to terminate these into cat5e faceplate's. The cable will need to be terminated directly into a plug otherwise the losses caused by the additional connections can and do cause signal drop outs and sync issues. (Personal experience)

Last point, make sure you install plenty of double sockets under the stairs to power your equipment. I would suggest at a minimum 4 x double sockets as you will have quite a lot of equipment to plug in. Just reading your post suggests you will have:

Router
Switch
NAS
HTPC
Sky

Oh, and last last point don't forget to ensure you install adequate amounts of WF100 (aerial/sat cable) to the under stairs cupboard for your Sky LNB feeds, aerial feed, DAB/FM aerial possibly?, as well as every room you wish to have a TV point
 
I've just bought some Powerline adaptors after getting fed up with chasing around tradesmen trying to get them to run me some ethernet cable down to my computer room (SKY Box and Router at opposite end of the house)

I was very surprised to find no speed drop connecting my laptop up via a cable in my living room direct to the router than I get from at my desktop via the powerline.

I've now binned the idea of running ethernet cables all over the house completely.
 
I've just bought some Powerline adaptors after getting fed up with chasing around tradesmen trying to get them to run me some ethernet cable down to my computer room (SKY Box and Router at opposite end of the house)

I was very surprised to find no speed drop connecting my laptop up via a cable in my living room direct to the router than I get from at my desktop via the powerline.

I've now binned the idea of running ethernet cables all over the house completely.

What powerlines out of interest did you go for?
 
Hi Rjkoneill,

It depends on what stage the build is at fella,

I have just moved into my new place, as I reserved before the walls went up I asked the builder if i could put the networking in.

They were more than happy to accommodate me.


Also don't forget to haggle
Basically i got 4% off list price, all kitchen appliances and all flooring included, garden turfed and networking put in (I had to buy cabling and face plates)

You need to get this out of the way before you reserve though, get the above in writing and then agree to buy ;)

I would also ask them to wire in surround speaker sockets also. I had a double face plate installed near my amp, and then single plates for the left and right rears where i wanted them.

Hope that's of use fella.
 
I've just bought some Powerline adaptors after getting fed up with chasing around tradesmen trying to get them to run me some ethernet cable down to my computer room (SKY Box and Router at opposite end of the house)

I was very surprised to find no speed drop connecting my laptop up via a cable in my living room direct to the router than I get from at my desktop via the powerline.

I've now binned the idea of running ethernet cables all over the house completely.

Define "no speed drop". There are no power line adapters in existence that can rival direct cat5e/cat6 cable. It's just not physically possible.
 
What sort of prices would a sparky charge to run/fit 4 bedrooms and a lounge and hall together with ethernet including terminations/sockets?
 
What sort of prices would a sparky charge to run/fit 4 bedrooms and a lounge and hall together with ethernet including terminations/sockets?

Need more information really mate.
Is the property lived in and furnished?
Floorboards or chipboard sheets?
Area the property is located? (Down south vs up north)
 
Property unfurnished but decorated and ready to move into.
Don't know about floor, I think chipboard sheets, but laminate exists in almost every room.
South London innit.
 
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