European Army

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Ok, so hopefully someone wiser in the ways of the world can elaborate on this a little for me..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...l-calls-creation-real-true-European-army.html

If there is a European Army and we aren't in the EU anymore, does that mean we wont be a part of that?

Does the existence of a European Army affect NATO or money into NATO etc?

Didn't some politician years ago say that the EU would push for an EU Army next?

How might it work? Would Germany be in command of the EU Army ? or Brussels? or operations etc done by vote?

Would each country have "command centres" and access to only their own hardware and bases etc or would a central command centre have access to everyones?

 

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Stop reading the daily mail. It's killing your brain.

Ah, that's ok then, if the European Army isn't being suggested, then everyone can ignore my questions as they aren't needed to be answered. Many thanks !

 

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Let's be honest, if Merkel was 10 pints down and the topic of Murica came up and in her completely obliterated state joked to a single other person "maybe vee must make a european army haha" and the other person chortled the daily mail would run with MERKEL WANTS EUROPEAN ARMY, BACKED BY ALL SUPPORTERS PRESENT.

It's a load of rubbish. We know it, the Mail know it, but it generates clicks.

No worries, now that you have clarified that she never said it, it makes my questions null and void, so all's good.

 

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Briefly answered. The plan would be along the lines of NATO where a a centralised military command structure is overseen my a civilian committee until a time of war where the military commander takes full control. Each nation has an input into the military command structure and pledges forces to the EU Army. The more you pledge the more command roles you get and the more "power" your civilian over-seers get over decisions.

Thanks for the reply but Diddums has already cleared it out for me, so no worries

 

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A random proper source appears! Gratitude intensifies!

Still, it's nothing at the moment. I'll start paying attention when pen gets put to paper.

Aha ! excellent, so my questions are once again valid.

I guess the question out of my list that I am most interested in, is the one regarding the EU and our membership, would we be included in the European Army once brexit goes through and do you think they might ask us to pay more into the European Army (as a non EU member). Or for that matter, would we even want to be in the European Army, I'm assuming that we would really. Or perhaps membership to NATO is sufficient for our needs?

 

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One potential point of having a purely EU army would be...........get ready for the tin-foil hats.............controlling any EU internal decent should it ever need to, which is something neither a single nation nor NATO would ever be able to do. Now thats just one plausible reason to have an EU army alongside dozens of much more palatable ones so while the chances of that very specific use are tiny it does still exist.

There was a very good "tom Clancy style" novel written in 1993 (as the EU came into law) by Larry Bond called Cauldron which has the following synopsis and gives a "worst case" scenario for an EU Army -



Now considering that written in 1993 thats a very remarkable amount of foreshadowing to what see see today.

That actually sounds like quite an interesting book, I'll have a look and see if its on audible. Thanks.

 

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I bet tensions with Russia will improve once there's a United European Army on their border /s

Its an interesting point of view though, what will be Russias view of a European Army, would that make them form an equivalent of their own by linking with some other nations? Or would they dismiss the European Army as a non-threat.