European court: You are allowed to resell your steam games

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Omg is this the beginning of the end..

http://www.lo-ping.org/2012/07/03/eu-court-ruling-allows-for-re-sale-of-used-games-by-end-users-you/

Had a game gathering dust on your shelf or taking space on your hard drive? Living in fear of copyright rulings as of late that’s seemingly brought the hammer down on anyone and everyone? Well quiver in fear no longer…at least if you live in Europe.

A recent ruling by the Court of Justice of the European Union has officially stated that “an author of software cannot oppose the resale of his ‘used’ licences allowing the use of his programs downloaded from the internet”. In essence, it is now illegal in Europe for companies to try to stop you from selling your used digitally distributed software.

As for what qualifies as “used”? Well, the ruling pretty much covers that as well:

The exclusive right of distribution of a copy of a computer program covered by such a licence is exhausted on its first sale.

And that is that. After a company has their first sale, they can’t do anything else about it. This step is huge in the digital distribution sense. You are now officially allowed to sell your Steam / Origin / GoG games and whatever…if you live in Europe.

Not to ignore the elephant in the room, this obviously flies in the face of EULAs signed by end-users on their part agreeing that they would not take part in exactly this. However, repeated precedent has shown that EULAs hold no water against actual laws. For if you agree to an EULA that is contradictory to European law, that point of the EULA is void.

On the other side, this brings up another argument that could be brought up: At the time of the agreement, it could be stated that the end-user agreed that the EULA was NOT contradictory to EU law. It is NOW contradictory, but not when the contract was originally agreed upon. It could also be argued that the companies don’t have to support EU law because (for the most part) they’re not located within the EU. And as far as US is concerned, these companies are the complete opposite of MegaUpload. Which makes the likelihood of extradition extraordinarily low.

On the OTHER other side, As long as these companies sell their product within the EU, they fall under EU commercial law. Many will see this as a plain fact and simple to understand. They’ll rationalize that if these companies don’t want to deal with it, they would have to stop to selling to the EU completely. [Protip: This likely won't happen.]

After all, here’s the magical phrase in the ruling that makes any and all EULA and EU law conflicts hopefully go the way of the dodo:

“Therefore, even if the licence agreement prohibits a further transfer, the rightholder can no longer oppose the resale of that copy. “

So expect some overhauls in a handful of Terms of Service agreements soon. And hopefully some fancy new licence-transfer features as well. Here, have another quote:

“Therefore the new acquirer of the user licence, such as a customer of UsedSoft, may, as a lawful acquirer of the corrected and updated copy of the computer program concerned, download that copy from the copyright holder’s website.”

This means Steam, GOG, Origin, et al., NEEDS to supply a way to transfer the ‘right to download the game’ to the proper party. Whether this feature will include a nominal fee or not remains to be seen. Don’t be surprised if it does; the potential revenue to be made there is astounding. Even if the fee is something around ten cents and it’s Euro counterpart, the volume alone could net Gabe and company quadrillions of dollars. Gorillians even.

Whether we’ll see the US following suit remains to be seen. Since most recent copyright defense actions have originated from the states, expect any adaptation to be at a snail’s pace at best.

Edit : Google Translate Article replaced with full English Version
 
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I have read the article.
Even with a change in T&C you still need a service to facilitate it.
You can't magically remove a game from Steam and sell it, you can't take your Assassins Creed 2 retail disk and sell it as no one can use it.

you maybe missed this bit...

This means Steam, GOG, Origin, et al., NEEDS to supply a way to transfer the ‘right to download the game’ to the proper party. Whether this feature will include a nominal fee or not remains to be seen. Don’t be surprised if it does; the potential revenue to be made there is astounding. Even if the fee is something around ten cents and it’s Euro counterpart, the volume alone could net Gabe and company quadrillions of dollars. Gorillians even.
 
I doubt this ruling will make any difference to Steam. As someone on the Steam forum said:



http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

As for what qualifies as “used”? Well, the ruling pretty much covers that as well:

The exclusive right of distribution of a copy of a computer program covered by such a licence is exhausted on its first sale.

And that is that. After a company has their first sale, they can’t do anything else about it. This step is huge in the digital distribution sense. You are now officially allowed to sell your Steam / Origin / GoG games and whatever…if you live in Europe.
 
this is the piece of the ruling that WILL make it happen

Not to ignore the elephant in the room, this obviously flies in the face of EULAs signed by end-users on their part agreeing that they would not take part in exactly this. However, repeated precedent has shown that EULAs hold no water against actual laws. For if you agree to an EULA that is contradictory to European law, that point of the EULA is void.

Effectively every EULA out there is nul and void

If people like Steam want to continue to trade in the EU they will have to change. So the ability for us to transfer previous purchases must be accommodated.

Oh and bye bye limited install DRMs :D

Infact if you think about it this could herald the end of DRM totally :eek:
 
I work with a friend who owns an independent games shop and its his understanding from various chats with suppliers and reps that the new consoles will be implementing systems to drasticly cut down on used games. In microsofts case its on the cards that all games will come with a one time use code that you will HAVE to activate on your xbox profile and that once its done your machine and yours only will play that game ( a code will be embedded in each dvd that is unique simiar to a MAC address ). Once activated the console with its unique serial number will be registerd to play that unique disc and thats it... similar to steam. You will not even be able to take a game round to a mates house and play it there.

That is what is being discussed anyway in the industry because they all feel "cheated" by second hand games.

They needn't bother talking about it anymore :D

tbh I wouldn't expect any change any time as soon as the Distributors will fight their corner hard. At some time they well have to change how they and the publishers/developers do business.

PCGamer have just put up a short article on it as well http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/07/03/european-court-of-justice-rules-on-the-right-to-sell-your-digital-games-and-licenses/

and finally START THE DAM SALE ALREADY GABE ! :mad:
 
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from RPS which includes the judgments wording, interesting bits highlighted, on reading this I don't see much wriggle room left for the likes of steam etc.

Well here’s some pretty huge news. The Court Of Justice of the European Union has just ruled that people should be able to resell downloaded games. In an environment where publishers are trying to destroy basic consumer rights like the ability to resell physical products you’ve paid for, this could be one heck of a turnaround for customers. And that’s no matter what it might say in the EULAs. This could have absolutely enormous implications on how services like Steam, Origin, GamersGate and the like work, and finally restore some rights back to the gamer.


The draconian and almost inevitably unenforceable rules we all pretend we’ve read and agreed to whenever we buy an online game are packed with ridiculous attempts to remove our rights of ownership. At best, when those rules are held to their letter, we’re long-term renting the games, with no rights to protect their being taken away from us at any point. So a ruling saying we have enough ownership that we can actually sell them on to others is a massive difference. Of course, it does ask one rather huge question: Er, how?

The preliminary ruling states,

“The first sale in the EU of a copy of a computer program by the copyright holder or with his consent exhausts the right of distribution of that copy in the EU. A rightholder who has marketed a copy in the territory of a Member State of the EU thus loses the right to rely on his monopoly of exploitation in order to oppose the resale of that copy… The principle of exhaustion of the distribution right applies not only where the copyright holder markets copies of his software on a material medium (CD-ROM or DVD) but also where he distributes them by means of downloads from his website.”

This was a result of software developers Oracle taking German company UsedSoft to court for reselling licenses to Oracle products. However, after reaching the European Court, a surprise blow came against the big publisher. And it has massive implications for all of online purchases, including games bought from places such as Steam, Origin, GamersGate, etc. And even further implications for those publishers attempting to ban the far more commonplace reselling of boxed products too.



The specific rule seems to be that if a license is sold indefinitely – i.e. not a license for a year, or similar – that the rightholder “exhausts his exclusive distribution right”.

“Such a transaction involves a transfer of the right of ownership of the copy.”

That sentence is a really massive deal. It’s the very first time there has been any official sense of ownership via digital distribution, and if it gets implemented by courts, it’s going to change a great deal. From our having the legal right to sell games in our Origin accounts, right down to surely taking away the ability for companies like Valve and EA to block customers’ access to their purchased games for other infractions.


Right now we have companies like Microsoft and Sony looking for ways to make reselling of their products impossible for their next generation of consoles, and presumably relying heavily on the perceived redundancy of the argument if those games were purchased online (as surely the next gen consoles will want to focus on). But pow, maybe not. With a ruling that states,

“The Court observes in particular that limiting the application of the principle of the exhaustion of the distribution right solely to copies of computer programs that are sold on a material medium would allow the copyright holder to control the resale of copies downloaded from the internet and to demand further remuneration on the occasion of each new sale, even though the first sale of the copy had already enabled the rightholder to obtain appropriate remuneration. Such a restriction of the resale of copies of computer programs downloaded from the internet would go beyond what is necessary to safeguard the specific subject-matter of the intellectual property concerned.”

this whole deal just got an awful lot more interesting. It appears to be directly stating that it is inappropriate for copyright holders to insist on the right to be remunerated with every re-sale, which could even have legal implications for the current systems various console publishers have introduced, forcing pre-owned customers to pay a tithe before the game will work properly.

The ruling also makes it clear that if someone does resell a digital copy of a product, they must remove their version of it from their computer – because at that point it does become a copyright violation, as it’s become a reproduction, not a resale. But fascinatingly, it adds, “However, the directive authorises any reproduction that is necessary for the use of the computer program by the lawful acquirer in accordance with its intended purpose. Such reproduction may not be prohibited by contract.” What does that mean for the current exploits publishers are using, too? Could they now be illegal?

How companies like Steam, EA, etc will react will be very interesting. Their current infrastructures certainly don’t support reselling, and they’d probably ban your account if they caught you trying to. This is a ruling whose implications could stretch a very long way. There are bound to be challenges to the ruling made, and we can assume this one will stay in courts for a good while longer.


interesting times
 
Well the first part is simple, how do you resell a digital product? Think about it, you buy a game on steam and you can then play that game regardless of steam being online or not.

I assume you see the issue? How can the developer/publisher make sure the person who originally bought the product is not still playing the game after selling it on? ....

It could be done quite simply.

For example if its a Steam game I must use the steam client to move it on, therefore steam will remove the game from my account and will be added to AN Others.
 
Just saw this. What a ridiculous thing, clearly whoever issued it has no clue about the whole thing.

As if publishers need another excuse to steer away from PC games, and as said it'll be damaging for small devs. Nobody will bother with sales any more either.

This does not just affect PC gaming - It will be applicable to ALL digital software - consoles et el, so those moves by Microsoft etc to stop second hand xbox games are about to crash
 
again this makes interesting reading (Source PCG)
Green Man Gaming CEO speaks out on EU digital sales ruling

Yesterday the European Court of Justice ruled that consumers had the right to sell digital their digital games. This is something that could potentially change digital distribution forever, but how exactly? Eurogamer have been speaking to Paul Sulyok, CEO of Green Man Gaming, about what all this could mean. The ruling states that you can sell your digital games onward, but that you must disable your own copy to do so.

Currently most digital retailers have no way to do this beyond selling your entire account. Sulyok believes that companies will be forced to provide this, but only after a test case has gone to court. “There will be a first case against one of the platform holders.” He says. “The result of that is a foregone conclusion. So they will have to facilitate that.” There’s a few potential impacts this could have on the market. With Sulyok pointing out that the current trend for short term, high discount sales is vulnerable to the emergence of a used market. A third party could buy keys in bulk during a sale, and then sell them on at a mark up once the sale has ended, undercutting the original distributor. “The classic technique of deep discount, short time limited discounts, all of that will be slightly skewed now.” he says “Because you don’t want to have a deep discounted game that can then be sold on elsewhere.” Green Man Gaming currently allows gamers to trade in their downloaded games to get discounts on future purposes. But Sulyok points out that if Steam or Origin were to enact the same practice it would have a serious impact on his business. Again this allows third parties to game the system by taking advantage of a short term sales, then trading them in.

Gamers have grown accustomed to big Steam sales and Humble Bundles giving them cheap games in a short term window, but this ruling could threaten that practice. If putting your game in the Humble Bundle just once will grant third party distributors an infinite number of one penny copies, people might not be willing to take the risk.
 
Best way this would work for steam & other game providers.

STEAM allows you to sell ur games to friends or on STEAM AUCTION.

Step 1- You put it up for say £10
Step 2 -random person Pays £10
Step 3 - STEAM data servers do the exchange of cash with no names mentioned & take a 10% Cut.
Step 4 - STEAM sends 5% cut to Orignal Developer
Step 5 STEAM takes 5% for Trasaction

STEAM - PROFIT
DEVLOPER - PROFIT
WE - PROFIT!

The ruling states that the Digital Distributer is not entitled to charge a fee for the transfer of a license/rights
 
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