eurozone collapse and me

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can someone please explain to me IF / When the eurozone collapses like they are saying on tv, how will the effect me and my finances?
I dont fully understand how something that I have no involvement with can effect me when it fails
 
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I dont fully understand how something that I have no involvement with can effect me when it fails
The reason you don't fully understand is because you have your first fact wrong - you are very much involved in the Eurozone :)

Globalisation, world trade, debt and the monetary system etc. The Eurozone is an area of huge economic significance, and it going wrong affects everybody on the planet.
 
The reason you don't fully understand is because you have your first fact wrong - you are very much involved in the Eurozone :)

Globalisation, world trade, debt and the monetary system etc. The Eurozone is an area of huge economic significance, and it going wrong affects everybody on the planet.
So how does it affect us?

Not being pedantic by that, I don't know the answer either...
 
can someone please explain to me IF / When the eurozone collapses like they are saying on tv, how will the effect me and my finances?

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does this mean (assuming im still employed) that I will be able to buy a spanish holiday home on the cheap? ;)
 
So how does it affect us?

Not being pedantic by that, I don't know the answer either...
Companies in the Eurozone supply goods and services to us, employ people in the UK, buy debt that our companies have, buy debt from our Government, finance our cars/mortgages/Christmases/companies, operate our infrastructure and utilities etc.

The idea that we are separate is almost nonsense. We have separate sovereignty but we are very heavily economically integrated, and economics is everything, really. It's fundamental to our entire existence.
 
it means i'll be emigrating.

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So is this happening next week?

I know I'll regret saying this. But It just HAS to happen. Its the only way I can see the reset that is required.

Banks need to shape up or ship out and we need to make our own laws and finance decisons. The Euro was never going to work without all governments singing from the same song sheet.

Its going to get bad. Victorian Bad.
 
I don't think trade dies to the extent everyone says it will. All the trade mechanisms will probably remain, but you'll be buying and selling in 15 different currencies if you trade with Europe. This makes cross-border price comparisons harder, but on the other hand exchange rates aren't rocket science and certain high ticket things could get cheaper, as things like holidays to Greece are a lot more expensive since they joined the Euro.
 
It won't die, that's for sure. When there's money to be made trade will take place; it just becomes more costly and margins are thinned. Companies with slim profits reliant on European business could be killed.

There's also the issue that there are problems in the Eurozone aside from the Euro itself.
 
you will need to horde caps, as bottle caps will become the new currency. Central governments will fall and we will all be living in enclaves. Upon your 10th birthday you will receive a pip-boy3000 and be made to work in the reactor room !
 
can someone please explain to me IF / When the eurozone collapses like they are saying on tv, how will the effect me and my finances?
I dont fully understand how something that I have no involvement with can effect me when it fails

If you have a pension it will be hit hard. If you have any investments they will be hit hard. That's the up-front thing that'll hit first: the stockmarket will plummet.

The economic effects over the medium term will be much more damaging. Except the UK to enter a second recession, and take a long time to return to more than sub single digit growth. This means a lot of job losses in the private sector and, likely, yet more "austerity" cuts in the public - which, in turn, will cause more private sector losses.

In short: you'll be hit in the pocket in any investments and then much increased economic woes will hit employment hard. Tax rises and service cuts are also likely.
 
Germany will have to save it first... They've done to well out of the Euro not to (not that the German voters realise this).

In all seriousness, getting to the end of the module I'm doing this term on the European Economy, means I'm surprised that we haven't had a post like this earlier. It is a highly complicated affair.

For all intents and purposes though. For a start we're in the EU.
  • If the Euro fails, then the close ties that we have with Europe will lead to investors (who acknowledge our close ties to the EU and Euro), downgrading our banks/bonds etc... and our interest rates on international borrowing will increase. - If it hits 6% that's when companies seem to start requesting bail outs. (This was the whole issue with Italy the other week.)
  • The EU is one of our biggest trade partners. If the Eurozone collapses, then a huge proportion of our exports and imports will simply stop. Imports means you'll see less competition on market shelves, and prices may go up. It is possible that the non-EU international market can fill this gap. But it's unlikely. More of an issue is Exports. If the Eurozone collapses, Exports will shrink dramatically. This will mean firms make less money, we'll probably enter a double dip recession (probably going to anyway), and we go over the whole unemployment increases, as firms go bankrupt.

There are other factors, and I can't really think of them all right now. However no doubt, others will explain them.

Those are the main two issues. But basically, we'll be in recession again. Deeper than the worse.

kd
 
Shameless C&P

dummies guide to financial crisis

Helga is the proprietor of a bar.

She realises that virtually all of her customers are
unemployed alcoholics and, as such, can no longer afford to
patronise her bar.

To solve this problem, she comes up with a new
marketing plan that allows her customers to drink now, but
pay later.

Helga keeps track of the drinks consumed on a ledger
(thereby granting the customers' loans).

Word gets around about Helga's 'drink now, pay later'
marketing strategy and, as a result, increasing numbers of
customers flood into Helga's bar.

Soon she has the largest sales volume for any bar in
town.

By providing her customers freedom from immediate
payment demands, Helga gets no resistance when, at regular
intervals, she substantially increases her prices for wine
and beer, the most consumed beverages.

Consequently, Helga's gross sales volume increases
massively.

A young and dynamic vice-president at the local bank
recognises that these customer debts constitute valuable
future assets and increases Helga's borrowing limit.

He sees no reason for any undue concern, since he has
the debts of the unemployed alcoholics as collateral!

At the bank's corporate headquarters, expert traders
figure a way to make

huge commissions, and transform these customer loans
into DRINKBONDS.

These 'securities' then are bundled and traded on
international securities markets.

Naive investors don't really understand that the
securities being sold to them as 'AA Secured Bonds' really
are debts of unemployed alcoholics.

Nevertheless, the bond prices continuously climb, and
the securities soon become the hottest-selling items for
some of the nation's leading brokerage houses.

One day, even though the bond prices still are
climbing, a risk manager at the original local bank decides
that the time has come to demand payment on the debts
incurred by the drinkers at Helga's bar. He so informs
Helga.

Helga then demands payment from her alcoholic patrons,
but being unemployed alcoholics they cannot pay back their
drinking debts.

Since Helga cannot fulfil her loan obligations she is
forced into bankruptcy. The bar closes and Helga's 11
employees lose their jobs.

Overnight, DRINKBOND prices drop by 90%. The collapsed
bond asset value destroys the bank's liquidity and prevents
it from issuing new loans, thus freezing credit and economic
activity in the community.The suppliers of Helga's bar had granted her generous
payment extensions and had invested their firms' pension
funds in the BOND securities. They find they are now faced
with having to write off her bad debt and with losing over
90% of the presumed value of the bonds. Her wine supplier also claims bankruptcy, closing the
doors on a family business that had endured for three
generations, her beer supplier is taken over by a competitor
, who immediately closes the local plant and lays off 150
workers. Fortunately though, the bank, the brokerage houses and
their respective executives are saved and bailed out by a
multibillion dollar no-strings attached cash infusion from
the government.The funds required for this bailout are obtained by
new taxes levied on employed, middle-class, non-drinkers who
have never been in Helga's bar.
Now do you understand?
 
I made more money in the last recession (fixing PC's) so I assume I'll make even more if we have another recession... roll on the good times..
 
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