EV general discussion

jpaul said:
we have poor mobile signal (so have a more basic problem than those with earlier vodaphone dropouts) a car that connects to wifi is thus essential (for app based preheat)
we would need to get the internet to the garage (40M odd away - other side of neighbours property) to provide that.

charger may/will need internet too, so the upgraded buried cable (also providing power to garage) will need to provide that.

e: OK does look like a 4mm armoured with cat exists
EV-Ultra SWA Cable 3 Core
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Yea it exists. We told you that, But you need 6mm.
 
dlockers said:
With July delivery I assume it'd be Juniper?
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I would have thought so although it’s not launched in Germany yet and that’s were ours our made now and not China. There should be some proper deals on the remaining stock if any is still knocking around by then.

dlockers said:
Are the cameras as bad as everyone is saying?
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No, my model 3 has proper sensors and my Y doesn’t so plenty of experience with both. First couple of iterations were bad, but it works well now. It’s no substitute for a good 360 camera but the two cameras in the wings make it very easy to park with little need to use your mirrors.
 
Jonnycoupe said:
Yea it exists. We told you that, But you need 6mm.
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but no one told me about herSWA w/CAT I could bury ... yes that's true I would need 6 to keep within voltage drop.

seems MG like stellantis can't use wifi remotely to initiate the pre-heat - these cars evidently not designed for UK with mobile reception blackspots;
... this (dark ages) reticence of manufacturers to let you put your own data sim in the car, and have a good quality IP phone reception in the car
 
jpaul said:
but no one told me about herSWA w/CAT I could bury ... yes that's true I would need 6 to keep within voltage drop.
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Of course they do it in SWA, they also make it in 10mm and 16mm. Bare in mind you can only do a 100mb Ethernet and 1 CT via the CAt5e in EV ultra.

If you need both a full speed network cable and CT's then you will also need a standalone CAT5/6 also. They also make CAT5 and CAT6 in SWA, its not particularly expensive.

6mm EV ultra is ~£8.80/meter
10mm EV Ultra is ~£12.90/meter

6mm 3 core is ~£3.70/meter
CAT5e SWA is ~£3.10/meter
 
no one told you? Is that similar to your “tell us” demand jpaul. That data sheet is jank anyway, all ratings at 30C and conductor at 90C what ever that means?! 6mm is the defacto. All these months of posting and clearly not reading anything just on google regurgitating transmitt mode. 6mm has been mentioned 10s of times.

I also don’t get your obsession with data and WiFi. If coming from home you can have a schedule for start and if you are out and about you won’t have your home WiFi anyway! I don’t see how you can have any real experience of a Mokka loan car app use either! The car has a better antenna than your phone too.

Wake up and read, put that damn CB radio down.
 
Journey said:
I had the displeasure of have to put fuel in a car for the first time in ages, in the freezing cold. The pump handle was freezing and I had to stand there while the icecold wind whipped through the forecourt, I was unimpressed to say the least and realised how many people have yet to be blessed with ability to re-fuel on the drive at home and not put up with that horrid experience.
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I had the displeasure of charging at a public untethered charger for the first time the other day. After charging the cable was freezing cold, wet and dirty because it had been strewn across the car park. I then had to put said dirty cable into my immaculately clean boot getting my hands filthy in the process.

At the end of the process I was emotionally scarred but my psychologist assures me that the trauma will ease given time. ;)

Seriously though I don't get this over the top reaction to something that you do once a week. Maybe it's because I still do both (daily charging and refilling at least once a week) but they are much of a muchness to me. Faffing about with a wet dirty cable every morning versus 2 minutes trying not to stand in a pool of diesel while watching the numbers on the pump flick round. It's like choosing between a slap in the face or a kick in the shins :p
 
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Let's ignore why you want to play with an expensive cable in the mud every morning.

Charging at home is just a lot easier than the other.
 
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OspreyO said:
Let's ignore why you want to play with an expensive cable in the mud every morning.

Charging at home is just a lot easier than the other.
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If by play you mean coil up and mud you mean brick weave then yeah, that's me every morning. I've got one end permanently connected in the garage so it's just coil, hook up and off I go. Not sure how I could make it any easier but in the context of filling up with petrol being described as "horrid" it would be fair to describe it as a "minor inconvenience" IMO.

It's kind of irrelevant anyway, you need to fuel your car with something and that requires shoving something into a hole. It's just funny describing some apocalyptic scene while being battered by arctic conditions when we all know that even in the depths of winter a couple of minutes on a petrol station forecourt is a non event.

The positives are already obvious with an EV, massively cheaper fuel at your own home. No need to make out like the alternative is the stuff of nightmares :p
 
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Man using hyperbole to complain about hyperbole. The complains about someone using hyperbole to point out the irony.

It's just easier to fill at home and even more so in poor weather. It's not rocket science.

We used to have a diesel tank at home for the same reason. Though I used to find that a pita in cold weather also. I find home charging easier. Electricity is just a cleaner fuel.

Though if you don't like filling get a diesel, it goes the longest between fills. But ironically the shortest between services. No free lunch..
 
OspreyO said:
Man using hyperbole to complain about hyperbole. The complains about someone using hyperbole to point out the irony.

It's just easier to fill at home and even more so in poor weather. It's not rocket science.

We used to have a diesel tank at home for the same reason. Though I used to find that a pita in cold weather also. I find home charging easier. Electricity is just a cleaner fuel.

Though if you don't like filling get a diesel, it goes the longest between fills. But ironically the shortest between services. No free lunch..
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Not really, just calling out filling up with petrol being "horrid" compared to being "blessed" by plugging in a charger. Which is cobblers, neither is a big deal but there is a certain element of YMMV.

I pass a Shell station daily so if I want to fill up it's en route any way and I can just pump and go with the app, literally 2 minutes.

Likewise if my drive was a different configuration I could get away with a shorter cable and just whack the end into a holder and never have to coil the thing up.

Journey using emotive language to blow out of proportion issues against fossil fuel use just isn't required. Firstly it's preaching to the converted and secondly there are way better reasons to go EV than horrid petrol stations.

Fact remains that of my two fill ups on Friday the untethered public charger was more of a faff than a fuel fill up, probably had me out of the car in the elements (not forecourt covered for the charger) for longer too. EDIT- but again for context, a non issue.
 
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It's almost like being outside in general is the issue, rather than the fuel type, so it's a bit of a silly point-scoring exercise either way.
I am surprised that moving to an EV and filling it up at home can somehow make you forget that gloves exist..... :p
 
... and we're back to 2 min pitstops.

I did a 3 day trip recently and managed not to ever use an unthered charger once.

I think you're going of your way to talk one thing down and the other thing up. Which is the same thing you're complaining about.
 
Conscript said:
It's almost like being outside in general is the issue, rather than the fuel type, so it's a bit of a silly point-scoring exercise either way.
I am surprised that moving to an EV and filling it up at home can somehow make you forget that gloves exist..... :p
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I think the point is you don't need gloves.
 
Still a dirty wet boot though. Is this really such a big deal to argue.

I use untethered at work and the cable is wet many times when I put it in my boot. It’s annoying but it’s what it is. I’m sure someone will tell me I’m wrong though
 
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