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The XC90 is about 71,000 euros starting price so 88,000 doesn't seem too nuts given the spec and being electric. The XQC is £70,000 so it seems pretty comparable to me!Perhaps they are leaving it to be a Halo model when interest wanes, which won't take long at those prices
Yes it does very well, which can only be good for EV adoption, especially given it has great charging speeds as well. Nice to see a real world scenario used as well, as opposed to driving in a circle at 70mph, or worse driving at 35mph in a circle!
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Only problem is the weather isn’t real world for the UK in terms of uk muggles reading that and now armed with even more “my car doesn’t so the range it should” at dealerships.
Oh and driving passed 0miles isn’t really a real world use case anyway.
in terms of uk muggles reading that and now armed with even more “my car doesn’t so the range it should” at dealerships.Oh and driving passed 0miles isn’t really a real world use case anyway.
Maybe, but list price doesn't tell the whole story, with traditional sales model you'd go in to dealer and getting ~10k off your Volvo or other legacy makers is fairly straight forward with discounts and finance deals etc, less so with the online model. Probably less of a problem for those who rent rather than buy.
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When they didn't have supply issues sure
Interesting test. You can criticise the methodology but at the end of the day, it’s not realistic for them to test them all across a range of weathers for a piece in a magazine.
Likewise I agree it’s not realistic to drive them past zero but in reality you need to have an idea of how your car behaves once it gets to zero. I don’t ever plan on running out of fuel and never have but plenty of people seem to manage to.
To be honest, having owned a true 200+ mile BEV for awhile now and I’ve gotten past the whole range thing. I’ve done quite a few 500 mile days and having high powered chargers in the right places is more important than having a massive battery that does 400 miles that you don’t use day to day.
Destination charging is also key, it keeps people off the rapids much more than you would initially think.
Likewise I agree it’s not realistic to drive them past zero but in reality you need to have an idea of how your car behaves once it gets to zero. I don’t ever plan on running out of fuel and never have but plenty of people seem to manage to.
To be honest, having owned a true 200+ mile BEV for awhile now and I’ve gotten past the whole range thing. I’ve done quite a few 500 mile days and having high powered chargers in the right places is more important than having a massive battery that does 400 miles that you don’t use day to day.
Destination charging is also key, it keeps people off the rapids much more than you would initially think.
I think that is why they did that as a separate test, and it wasn't included in the range test results, as very few people would even dare to go to 0% let alone far past that, which is obviously sensible.
Yeah, I've used more camp site chargers than rapids in my BEV ownership, as even 6-10A overnight charging is a big bonus if not moving the car for that wasted time period.
Only problem is the weather isn’t real world for the UK
They did a winter test too so you could see the expected deviation, all this sort of data helps keep consumers informed.
Isn't it, sounds like a man who doesn't play petrol station chicken
Saw an e-208 doing approx 30mph on the M4 coming home lunchtime, I think he might have failed and was in turtle mode
also saw a HGV reversing up the motorway split junction for M48/M4 as he took the wrong one, dangerous AF 
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Only informed customers. So 0.05% of the UK
I dunno, I’ve seen worse backtracking in these forumsSaw an e-208 doing approx 30mph on the M4 coming home lunchtime, I think he might have failed and was in turtle mode
Driver was probably in turtle head modeSaw an e-208 doing approx 30mph on the M4 coming home lunchtime, I think he might have failed and was in turtle mode
only issue is that's china MG , will they ever pick up some of the engineering/handling expertise of the real/original MG, it's a pity jaguar didn't buy/partner them.
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Jaguar buy MG? Mate you are on crack.
But they were next to each other so surely it makes sense
I think MG would tell you the don't need to pick up any European engineering skills given they are currently knocking out the park with their BEV's and seem to be teaching the value orientated western brands a thing or two.
Lol. You didn’t see the lower arm that snapped on a 1000mile old one earlier then ? Bit of a different customer base too. Fisher price cars vs real ones.
You ordered your MG yet?
What like the Toyota where the wheel falls off?
Global recall after loose wheel nut issue forces global recall of new electric SUV | Electrifying
Global recall after loose wheel nut issue forces global recall of new electric SUV
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Or the Skoda where the fuse that pops and burns the car down?
VW Group recalls hybrid vehicles: Electric shock and fire hazards also affect Skoda - Car-Recalls
✅ Approximately 118,000 Volkswagen hybrids are recalled worldwide due to a faulty battery fuse. There is a risk of fire or electric shock. The fault may
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Yeah different customer base and real cars....
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Strong words. On which attributes are you talking or just the usual physics efficiency stuff. I notice I have no come back in my views from WhatCar “impressive” chunder aswell. It’s almost like MG have paid some of these magazine. No doubt have positioned themselves as a strong entry price brand though.
Check MG. SAIC. And where a good bulk of the engineering takes place before pretending to be in a position to declare who are “knocking or out the park”. You might not get your posts knocked about so much then.